Help Put Together a Test/Dbol Cycle

[austniceguy]

This has Taken me a couple of days to completely understand whats going on here.
I'm Gyno Prone (Endomorph) so i made this towards fighting off Gyno as much as possible but keeping it low cost.
I am not running this cycle.
I'm just trying to get an idea how to create cycles.
This is very common cycle, i use Google and it comes up with lots and lots of different tips/cycles like this.. one guy even said wait 7weeks after lost shot to start PCT!!! (Something wrong there)

So this is supposed to be a Pharmacy Grade low cost cycle that's pretty decent and keep most of your gains providing you train and eat:11 Weeks on Cycle, 4Weeks PCT

Weeks 1-4 Dbol@ 25mg ED (5tabs Spread Throughtout the day)
Weeks 1-10 HCG@500iu p/w 250iu Sunday/Wed (SubQ)
Weeks 1-10 Testoviron or Test E 10weeks @500mg p/w (Mon/Thurs)
Weeks 1-11 Arimidex@.25mg ED (1/4 Cut Tab) and Every Sunday Take .50mg of a pill (1/2 tab) "using a pill cutter because you aint gonna cut 1mg by hand"
Weeks 11-15 One Week on same day on last injection (7days) start Nolvadex 20mgs/Day for 30days

As you can see, .25mg of Arimdex ED .50 on the Sunday once a week.
Anything over 20mg Nolva is useless apparently and doesn't work, so that 40/40/20/20 doesn't show any signs of improvement over 20/20/20/20"

Clomid Shouldn't be needed since i have HCG/Nolva

And HCG is talked about to keep the nuts working while on cycle and help recover HPTA at a quicker rate. I think it goes hand in hand with the amount of test your running. (500mg = 500ui) (1000mg = 1000iu) That way your always in the safe.



So, What do you think about this cycle guys, would it work nicely?

 

[austniceguy]

Just to introduce to you in simpler Terms (so you guys don't have to read so much)

Weeks 1-4 Thai Black: Dbol@ 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10 Organon Pregnyl: HCG@500iu p/w
Weeks 1-10 Testoviron or Alpha-Pharma: Test E 10weeks @500mg p/w
Weeks 1-11 Pharmacy Grade: Arimidex@.25mg ED & Every Sunday Take .50mg of a pill
Weeks 11-15 7 Days Later After Last Test Shot, start Nolvadex: 20mgs/Day for 30days


Thanks in Advanced.

 

[Cobra Strike]

first of all the amount of test your doing doesnt dictate how much hcg you run....what dictates that is the amount of testicular atrophy occurs...My goal is to keep them normal sized and if they shrink I titrate my hcg...also read det oaks sticky "standard post cycle therapy (pct)" that will tell you how to run your hcg cause I dont have time to explain it and the way you have it is wrong.

the arimidex would just be .25ed all the way through post cycle therapy (pct) and taper down during post cycle therapy (pct)...you dont have to do.5 on sunday...where did you come up with that? ha

and I would strongly recommend getting clomid or toremifene..nolva alone is weak as shit

what are your stats?

and I smoke your avy everyday!

 

[austniceguy]

first of all the amount of test your doing doesn't dictate how much hcg you run....what dictates that is the amount of testicular atrophy occurs...My goal is to keep them normal sized and if they shrink I titrate my hcg...also read det oaks sticky "standard post cycle therapy (pct)" that will tell you how to run your hcg cause I dont have time to explain it and the way you have it is wrong.

the arimidex would just be .25ed all the way through post cycle therapy (pct) and taper down during post cycle therapy (pct)...you dont have to do.5 on sunday...where did you come up with that? ha

and I would strongly recommend getting clomid or toremifene..nolva alone is weak as shit

what are your stats?

and I smoke your avy everyday!

Thanks man, was a good read!
I have not smoked for a solid 3weeks, last time i did it i was on anti-depression tablets and i tripped out so bad.
Either the Anti-Depression or T3 for my thyroid.

The Arimidex idea, people say that you should run it between .25 - .50mg a day.
So i thought the .50 would boost it up once a week

With the HCG
run 500iu's of HCG every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before your SERM treatment.

And with SERM treatment (post cycle therapy (pct))
do the Nolva/Clomid Combo
or better, try and get some Aromasin at 25mg ed during post cycle therapy (pct)

Weeks 1-4 Dbol@ 25mg ED
Weeks 1-10 Test E 10weeks @500mg
Weeks 1-11 Arimidex@.25mg ED
Weeks 9-10 500iu HCG Everday for 10Days Leading upto 4 Days Before your SERM treatment
Weeks 11-15 14 Days after Last Injection start post cycle therapy (pct)-
(Looking into Clomid or Aromasin)
-Clomid 50/50/50/50
-Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10
OR should run 25mg ED of Aromasin during the SERM treatment along with 20mg of Nolva for 30days.

In the Read i noticed "Nolva 40mg for 14 days and then 20mg for 14-28 more days."

Just trying to make sure, I have read multiple posts that anything over 20mg of Nolva shows no signs of improvements over 40mg.

What do you think? (Mainly the issue here is Cost because if you want to run 40 for 14 days and then 20 for 14-28 days. You will need another Pack Nolva)

 

[Cobra Strike]

I was mistakin on the arimidex dosage...I was thinking of prami...adex is .5ed and taper during pct...

Your hcg looks better now

and if your trying to save then just get the clomid...you dont need nolva and if you want to do the nolva with clomid then I wouldnt argue with 20/20/20/20

what are your stats bro?

 

[austniceguy]

Body Type - EndoMorph/Meso(Seem to add fat quicker then most people, but it could be to a thyroid problem "under-active thyroid")
85kg
5"11
20 y/o
When i take the pinch test it says im 18% body fat but that's inaccurate due to being 115kg when i was 15y/o
(Left me with Alot of problems (fucked back, Gyno, Big legs with skinnyfat upper body)

My Diet is Good my intake is 50% protein, 40% Carbs 10% Fat/Sugar (Fruit Sugar)

 

[bassbehemoth]

You are 20 years old..wait a few years minimum.

 

[Cobra Strike]

You are def way to young bro...you need to eat and train for the next 4-5 years before you start aas...not saying you cant handle it but your hormones right now are bipolar as fuck and if you start messing with them now you may not be able to recover normally and end up on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your whole life.

not to mention your test levels are proly through the roof and most older guys would be jealous of you.

do your body and life a favor and get a diet down in the diet forum that will suit your goals

 

[austniceguy]

You are def way to young bro...you need to eat and train for the next 4-5 years before you start aas...not saying you cant handle it but your hormones right now are bipolar as fuck and if you start messing with them now you may not be able to recover normally and end up on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your whole life.

not to mention your test levels are proly through the roof and most older guys would be jealous of you.

do your body and life a favor and get a diet down in the diet forum that will suit your goals

I see where your coming from, and thanks for looking out for me & other members.
I don't think i am one of the few who will have a problem getting my HPTA to recover

Look at Little Hurcules, or Lorenzo Becker. They are both below 4years younger then me, Yet they don't have any problems.
Little Hurcles is still training but more aerobic/body weight exercises.

I got people who have been on cycles since they were 16 and they have no problems, none at all.. not even acne!
I understand where your coming from when i should just stick to religious training and a good diet.