Help with first test 400 cycle

[Weapon X]

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The pct protocol I've got in mind is something similar to the one posted in the cycling for beginners thread - Clomafene Citrate 50mg everyday for 4 weeks
Tamoxifen citrate 40mg every day 2 weeks followed by 20mg everyday for 2 weeks. Would that be overkill or sufficient enough to kick start my own endogenous test and protect the possible gains I've made on cycle?

The rui site looks trustworthy enough, but the prices seem a bit steep in my opinion. I've seen other sites that sell generic exemestane, for example, for $30 dollars for 30, 25mg tablets. The only problem is you can't trust them with your card details, so I'm kinda stuck in limbo as to what to do. If money was no object I'd have already made an order with rui.

Thanks for the tip with warming up the oil slightly before injection. I'll try it out tomorrow, since i'm due another shot.

Make sure to really massage and flex on and off the injected muscle. PCT looks good but Make sure you have all of your HCG and an AI like Arimidex on hand. Good luck. Feel free to ask, there are no dumb questions if you really want to learn!

 

[Weapon X]

I have a PCT Calculator I will send ya to show when u should start the nolva/clomid. Make sure to wait 3 weeks after your last Test shot to start pct! But keep the AI and HCG going until the nolva then stop em and just do the nolva clomid, the AI will lower estrogen levels too much with nolva and the hcg will keep u from recovery because it affects testosterone.

 

[tbonexl]

Nolva doesn't lower estrogen levels. U dont need an ai during pct cuz your test levels are dropping from discontinued use of test. Wow...

 

[Weapon X]

Nolva doesn't lower estrogen levels. U dont need an ai during pct cuz your test levels are dropping from discontinued use of test. Wow...

Nolva blocks estrogen receptors and thus DOES reduce estrogen effects. This is why you don't take an AI with it because it will lower estrogen TOO much. Wow, read brother, this site has articles if you can read. If you do not have an AI and have symptoms of gyno related to excess estrogen during cycle then yes, taking nolva will lower this and reverse the gyno. Read up brother. Top of page, then instead of thinking you know, you will actually be informed . Good Luck Bro

 

[tbonexl]

I think your the one that needs to read. Nolva does not lower e2!

 

[tbonexl]

Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) | Steroidology.com

 

[Weapon X]

I think your the one that needs to read. Nolva does not lower e2!

Once again read my post lol. I said it blocks receptors and thus reduces e2 effects, not e2. But thanks, you will get it right eventually big guy

 

[Weapon X]

Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) | Steroidology.com

If you READ the first 2 sentences of the article you posted to prove me wrong proves I am right Lmao. Reading and reading comprehension are two different things lil buddy lol.

 

[tbonexl]

If u read the whole thing it proves u wrong! Lol
Your a stubborn lil guy aren't u. Post up a link to this sticky u talk about. I can do this shit all day! Lol

 

[tbonexl]

It's pretty obvious that u don't know what your talking about. Atleast you are here and should be reading up on things. Maybe a lil more then the first 2 sentences...

 

[Weapon X]

It's pretty obvious that u don't know what your talking about. Atleast you are here and should be reading up on things. Maybe a lil more then the first 2 sentences...

Look, u are obviously a bit slow so I'll break it down one more time for special boy: Nolva reduces e2 effects by blocking receptors. Period. Like I said, so sorry.

 

[Weapon X]

If u read the whole thing it proves u wrong! Lol
Your a stubborn lil guy aren't u. Post up a link to this sticky u talk about. I can do this shit all day! Lol

Your sticky proves what I am saying lol, why should I add another? Just read it again yourself, slowly this time.

 

[Weapon X]

Are you messing with me tbone? Or are you serious? Read your posted sticky bro, come on lol.

 

[Weapon X]

Hey lil buddy you make me smile lol. Keep this up plz it is amusing, especially when u said that nolva doesn't block estrogen and then posted a link proving you were wrong and your ignorance. Keep it up dog lol

 

[tbonexl]

U posted that nolva and an ai will lower your e2 too much. That's false cuz nolva doesn't lower e2. U again posted that nolva can be used instead of an ai during cycle. That's incorrect. An ai prevents e2 from getting too high. You seem to be the special one. Look at your posts. You've been corrected on many of them. So your obviously the one with comprehension issues. I'm not messing with u, just trying to help. If u want to get all butt hurt over it that's fine.

 

[tbonexl]

Hey lil buddy you make me smile lol. Keep this up plz it is amusing, especially when u said that nolva doesn't block estrogen and then posted a link proving you were wrong and your ignorance. Keep it up dog lol

I never said nolva doesn't block estrogen. I said it doesnt lower estrogen. Where are u getting your info from?

 

[tbonexl]

Looks like u edited most of your posts on here... What happened? Were u wrong??? Ha...

 

[Weapon X]

U posted that nolva and an ai will lower your e2 too much. That's false cuz nolva doesn't lower e2. U again posted that nolva can be used instead of an ai during cycle. That's incorrect. An ai prevents e2 from getting too high. You seem to be the special one. Look at your posts. You've been corrected on many of them. So your obviously the one with comprehension issues. I'm not messing with u, just trying to help. If u want to get all butt hurt over it that's fine.

Yes it will lower e2 too much, dnt take an AI with nolva for pct. AI lowers, nolva blocks receptors. Double action. I always said nolva blocks receptors thus lowering e2 EFFECTS. Again read the stickys or at least pay attention to what you do read. It will help ya

 

[tbonexl]

No u didn't that's why u edited your posts. It's cool. I really dont care. It's funny as hell tho.

 

[Weapon X]

I never said nolva doesn't block estrogen. I said it doesnt lower estrogen. Where are u getting your info from?

Lol, look back, u argued with me when I said it LOWERED e2 effects by blocking it lol. Seriously dude, take a nap or something, come back fresh