Here is my Cycle Layout (Test/Deca), Feedback please and thanks!

[Kinetic1989]

Hey guys, in May I will be doing my fourth cycle. I went through huge learning curves and regrets through my first three cycles due to improper instructions and negligence. I was also very naive and didn't do my research. It's been quite some time now and through extensive research and browsing on forums I came up with a cycle layout from start to finish. I am posting it and I was just hoping if you guys could give me feedback, whether it's positive negative or simply constructive criticism. It goes as follows:

Body Stats:
Age-24
Height-6' 2"
Weight- 187lbs
BF %-About 13 Percent
Bodytype-Mesomorph with Broad Shoulders

CYCLE:
Week 1-16: Test E 400---800mg a week (1cc injections on Sun and Wed)
Week 1-14: Deca 300---600mg a week (1cc injections on Sun and Wed) (I am stopping the Deca 2 weeks before the Test E)

Week 8-18:HCG:---500ius a week(250ius injections on Sun and Wed)
(I'm running the HCG from Week 8 all the way to 10 days past my last injection of Test E)
(I chose to start at Week 8 because I only have a 5000iu bottle on hand, if you guys feel that I should start it sooner or run it the whole cycle I can surely get another, but from what I read I don't want to run HCG too long because it desensitizes you. How do you feel about this?)

AI:I will be taking .25mg of Arimidex everyday to control estrogen levels, I've had gyno in the past and I actually had to get surgery to remove it. If I notice that .25 ED is not enough, I will up the dosage. What are your guys thoughts on this?

Prami/Caber:I currently do not have any plans with this, do you guys feel that I need to take it with the Arimidex?

PCT: (Starting PCT 14 days after last Test E Injection)
Clomid:
Day 1---300mg
Day 2-14---100mg
Day 15-28---50mg

Nolva:
Day 1---60mg
Day 2-14---40mg
Day 15-28---20mg

 

[Sworder]

That amount of hCG won't desensitize you, the infamous desensitization rumors stem from 5kiu ED applications. You would definitely benefit from another vial of hCG or even two.

Shouldn't need the Caber. the prolactin side effects is a myth, take your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and keep a dopamine agonist on hand if you want and you can wait for the "prolactin sides" to take place (which won't happen). Also, dopamine agonists can make you feel like shit as they will inhibit your own production making PCT worse.

Reconsider switching to NPP instead of Deca if you want nandrolone, deca is such a long ester medically it is considered out of your body after 5 half lives which would be 50 days almost if you consider the h2 to be 10 days. Some of deca's metabolites will be longer and it can depend a lot on the injection site as well. injection sites with more bloodflow will result in a faster metabolism of the drug and this usually doesn't matter but if the hl would be 10 days in the glute(typically the fastest injection site) and 12 days in the delt you can expect 70 days before it clears. I would honestly suggest using another compound even a low dose of trenbolone such as 200mg/week. I haven't really seen a lot of gains from deca to be honest, helps with my joints due to the weird ass effects it has on vasopressin. IMO!

The PCT looks good, nice front load You don't have to run the clomid 100mg the days after as the 300mg frontload will get you the steady state concentrations, the nolvadex has a similar halflive so 120mg first day and 20mg after that will have your SSCs taken care of. Don't be scared of prolonging the PCT if needed.

 

[Kinetic1989]

That's awesome info, thanks for the feedback. On this cycle I want to gain a lot of mass, and from what I read and talked to many people, Deca seems to be the best option for a "bulker". I have done Tren in the past and that was the cycle that gave me the gyno issues, I just figured it would be better for me to switch it up and experiment with Deca. Being that I have done three cycles already, I decided it's time for me to up the Test mg per week, and I found some good Deca 300 gear that would sit perfect along side the Test. I actually already bought it so at this point I guess I am kind of committed to Deca lol. So what I am understanding is that you're saying my PCT should go as follows:

Clomid:
Day 1---300 mg
Day 2-28---50 mg

Nolva:
Day 1---120mg
Day 2-28---20mg

 

[Sworder]

That's awesome info, thanks for the feedback. On this cycle I want to gain a lot of mass, and from what I read and talked to many people, Deca seems to be the best option for a "bulker". I have done Tren in the past and that was the cycle that gave me the gyno issues, I just figured it would be better for me to switch it up and experiment with Deca. Being that I have done three cycles already, I decided it's time for me to up the Test mg per week, and I found some good Deca 300 gear that would sit perfect along side the Test. I actually already bought it so at this point I guess I am kind of committed to Deca lol. So what I am understanding is that you're saying my PCT should go as follows:

Clomid:
Day 1---300 mg
Day 2-28---50 mg

Nolva:
Day 1---120mg
Day 2-28---20mg

Yes, that would give you the steady state concentration the fastest.

Or week 1 100mg Clomid/day
50mg/week after that

and week 1 40mg nolva/day
20mg/day after that

It's the same, it's called a loading dose. Most people don't even know why they do the previous protocol they just heard what do to and they abide. It's going by a calcuation to increase steady state concentrations.

the 300mg dose on the first day will lead you to metabolize 30mg/day from that first dose. Then the subsequent doses will add to that.

Most people will vote for:
100mg/40mg first week but again, they don't really understand the mechanism.

Potato/potato imo

Nice to see a good loading dose though, where did you get that protocol from?

 

[tbonexl]

6'2"/ 187lbs... You need to eat! Make sure u get a shit ton of food in u!

 

[Kinetic1989]

I actually got that post cycle therapy (pct) protocol from looking around forums and it seemed like the Vets always went with that layout. And trust me I know, I need to indulge in a lot of food to get the most out of this cycle lol. I prep my food and I have been eating very healthy, do you think bloating is going to occur on this cycle with the Deca? As much as I want to get big I still want abs to be visible for the summer : /

 

[stronglats]

I am committed to deca from my first cycle. No other drug with similar properties has effect on me as deca. Apart from promoting size and strength and with low androgenic properties, deca will assist all the joints and ease the pains that can be caused by hardcore workout . It also blocks the cortisone receptors allowing less cortisone to reach muscle tissue.
The water retention is very low and deca can be stacked with almost any steroid on the market. This is easily counterfeited and so caution should be taken when looking for deca. So far I've seen 50,100, 200 and 250 mg. multi dose vials (talking about genuine products), but never of 300mg.

 

[jagbc]

Wrk on ur dieting/ eating

 

[Kinetic1989]

What is the ideal amount of protein I should be consuming a day based on my cycle and my body? And I mean a realistic amount, there's only so much food and protein shakes I can consume lol. But I have heard guys say from 1g per body weight to 3g per body weight so I'm not too sure on what the "correct" amount should be

 

[hardtarget]

You need to eat and EAT CLEAN, you also need to TRAIN HARD!