jupiterlocal
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Doing about 500mg cyp EW and wondering if on week 8 could go to 700mg for 4 more weeks and reduce down 4 weeks after that for 4 weeks??
For total of 16 weeks..
For total of 16 weeks..
How long can you cycle for ??
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Teutonic
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If your reducing your doses to lower potential sides that might help. But with respect to your hpta your either ON or OFF and when your on your hpta is off. No matter if it s 100 or 1000 a week the hpta is off.
I ve no time to research your history but what is your
age
weight
how tall r u
bodyfat
cycle history
goal
Know this the longer your on the less likely your pct will restore normal hpta functionality and then there is the mental side.
NO PCT will ever make you feel like 500 mg test does...period. The longer your on such doses the less you ll remember what being normal and off is...if your young, prone to depression or immature......being off will suck. Period. Mental addiction is a real malady and real risk in this game.
As are e d , heart values skewing, potentially all kinds of stuff . Probably never ever have a problem but you GOT TO LET YOUR BODY AND BRAIN remember life w-o hormonal augmentation.
I ve no time to research your history but what is your
age
weight
how tall r u
bodyfat
cycle history
goal
Know this the longer your on the less likely your pct will restore normal hpta functionality and then there is the mental side.
NO PCT will ever make you feel like 500 mg test does...period. The longer your on such doses the less you ll remember what being normal and off is...if your young, prone to depression or immature......being off will suck. Period. Mental addiction is a real malady and real risk in this game.
As are e d , heart values skewing, potentially all kinds of stuff . Probably never ever have a problem but you GOT TO LET YOUR BODY AND BRAIN remember life w-o hormonal augmentation.
Roush
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Like Teutonic said,, lowering your dose down will do nothing for aiding in recovery, If your on your on, period. If I were not a trt guy and did pct myself,, then 16 weeks is about as long as I'd run a cycle
jupiterlocal
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I think Ill cut it at 16 weeks. Ive had good gains on the 500/wk dosage, I do want to move a tad higher though before I take a break. But, once your system is shut down from using test, isnt it shut down period, meaning, a short cycle is same to your system as a long cycle? either way it needs to be tricked back in to producing test again.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Good idea bud. Unless you want trt for the rest of your life anything past 16 weeks is taking a huge risk. I will say this, a lot of people do advocate cycling on and off with proper pct because it is better for your health and well being, but in practice most people end up breaking these rules to maintain the most of each blast. I would say that 70% of the guys I know who use end up in a vicious cycle of blasting and cruising and then saying they will do pct but it never happens. Once they have gotten the hormones in their systems it is tough to train and even live without them. This only applies to guys who don't use trt, but many of the guys here are on trt because they did not cycle off for long periods of time.
Teutonic
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there s no trick..pct simply speeds recovery..ur body will always s seek homeostasis however your hpta, ur nut s w o hcg will be dormant for longer. Nothing worse for a badass boat, jet ski car than to never be run. Even if you only run it for a 2-4 hour s road trip or h way run..it s gotta be run....
Also long ass cycles offer diminishing returns after 12, 14, 16 weeks and your recovery will be harder and maybe never complete.
Savvy ?
Also long ass cycles offer diminishing returns after 12, 14, 16 weeks and your recovery will be harder and maybe never complete.
Savvy ?
jupiterlocal
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I mean I am obviously doing HCG and working between Aramison and Adex finding the perfect mix between blocking and re routing estrogen while on cycle, i dont want to be suckin my own tits.. that would suck..... .
I also in last 8 weeks kinda did 10ml of mastron for the 2-5th week and did a little proviron 4th thru now, and now on to 300ml of EQ since 6th week. I am just experimenting to see what EQ/Prov do to water weight, size, strength and joints while on the normal Cyp. It just hasnt felt like 8 weeks to me. Honestly,,, I am used to old school where you do 250ml/wk of only cyp 1st 2 weeks, then 350 for another 2 weeks and then up to max of 400 a week of just cyp.. no pct, no supplements and it all turned out ok, balls staid big, no body new better then, problem with that shit is (if I may say) were older than I was at 26. like 13 yrs older, balder, angrier, with a laundry list of shit I wont get in to... balls stillbig tho
Teutonic
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post a pic; u re ALL over the map w fkn compounds, ai s ..how do you know what is doing what if you your aing this, reducing that..tossing proviron and eq ???!!! Eq is slower than X mas and anything under a rather large dose, 600 is really not gonna be noticed..with the myriad of compounds your doing..or not...or lowering...w t f ?
I m out. I can t begin to explain, w-o being really rude on a Friday night how A D D this is and glad I am that I m not your hpta, your receptor sites...
No offense please. I m not bashing just ...astounded that you really think u ll be able to see what s doing what anymore, though I do wish you well...you ll be an excellent candidate for trt if this ABUSE continues.
Pick 1, 2 or 3 ...you do them at a dose and time planned and quit. PLEASE POST A PIC....u take care now...you hear ?
I m out. I can t begin to explain, w-o being really rude on a Friday night how A D D this is and glad I am that I m not your hpta, your receptor sites...
No offense please. I m not bashing just ...astounded that you really think u ll be able to see what s doing what anymore, though I do wish you well...you ll be an excellent candidate for trt if this ABUSE continues.
Pick 1, 2 or 3 ...you do them at a dose and time planned and quit. PLEASE POST A PIC....u take care now...you hear ?
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
There just is NO rules, just some better protocols depending on your goals. I've gone on 12month runs changing one cycle and blasting into another. My junk still works and I'm pretty healthy other than some older ageing.
You have to decide your goal to decide what you can and can't do to achieve that goal.
jupiterlocal
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whoe buddy, Yeah, I am all over the place, you never been there compared to someone elses opinion? Were diks for doin steroids period in some peoples opinions, its 230 am here on sat morning here in south florida, Im on this board tired of suckin her tits. BTW you have always posted good shit on my threads, so beleive I like your opinioin ,, To be honest, done to much Bunny and to much vodka tonight, had a couple big tittiy girls over. literally they are on anavar and tits be crazy hot. I will PM pics of thos when politely requested.. BUT.... how did anyone find out the best cycle? is there a book or did people experiment with what does what.. I mean if there is a definite book, show me to the library.. or I am testing what shit does to my shoulder joints, legs, size, strength and water weight. I am testing shit compared to the water of cyp., just cause your older than me doesnt mean you have to be the old lady, cause im not bein a bitch, unless you guys say im bein a bitch... Im just playing, but, who figured out what before they tried shit.... so, I am trying shit, and reporting... Also you mentioned ADD.. I have it, I typically used to sniff it before working out at FSU with the team . shit i guess 15 yrs ago... were old.. im old.. I think mastron was the best compliment to cyp.. I totally pulled bitch move and wrote a paragraph.. sorry all.. I am waisted...talk tomorrow...
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jupiterlocal
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See you know whats goin on... goal is to suprise people with me getting back in shape quick.. but need to still be able to suk tits. is that a good goal?
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whoe buddy, its 4 am here on, sat morning here in south florida. you have always posted good shit on my threads, so beleive I like your opinioin ,, To be honest, done to much Bunny and to much vodka tonight, had a couple big tittiy girls over. literally they are on anavar and tits be crazy hot. I will PM pics of thos,. BUT.... how did anyone find out the best cycle? is there a book or did people experiment with what does what.. I mean if there is a definite book, show me to the library.. or I am testing what shit does to my shoulder joints, legs, size, strength and water weight. I am testing shit compared to the water of cyp., just cause your older than me doesnt mean you have to be the old lady.. Im just playing, but, who figured out what before they tried shit.... so, I am trying shit, and reporting... Also you mentioned ADD.. I have it, I typically used to sniff it before working out at FSU with the team . shit i guess 15 yrs ago... were old.. im old.. I think mastron was the best compliment to cyp.. I totally pulled bitch move and wrote a paragraph.. sorry all.. I am waisted...talk tomorrow...
Yes you are definitely waisted because its actually 2:45am in FL right now
hiram1st
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LOL. 12:06 here in arizona stuck on the night shift wish I was out getting my freak on
Teutonic
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Just cuz I m older...old lady for pointing out that your approach to trying 2, 4, 6 thing s AND expect US to take u seriously while u r admittedly waisted WHILE on all those different compounds show s your very interested in seeing what does what I can dig it. Call me a name..or suggest one for pointing out your reckless approach to aas, recreational mood enhancers from booze weed or worse and I ll show u how I react to some one acting recklessly and getting bent when someone call s him on it.
Those with money and big dick s and getting lot s of tail don t talk about it .
Accept another views that don t coincide w yours as maybe helpful and not a personal attack. I worry more about others reading ur post and following suit much more than if you wind up on dialysis or not....it s your body.
Carry on then .....good luck. Really.
Those with money and big dick s and getting lot s of tail don t talk about it .
Accept another views that don t coincide w yours as maybe helpful and not a personal attack. I worry more about others reading ur post and following suit much more than if you wind up on dialysis or not....it s your body.
Carry on then .....good luck. Really.
jupiterlocal
New member
shit man i woke up early to fukin edit those posts out.. lol.. yeah was waisted.
oldmusclemike
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Great post Teutonic ! I mean really guy WTF are you doing. Many times what people say when wasted is the deep down truth as to what they think and do. We as you should know get loose and uninhibited and do things, say things that we wouldn't normally. So really you're probably on target with your actions and thinking. I agree with Teutonic you are reckless in what you do and think.
Alcohol and drugs while on AAS, well that's just plain STUPID. You know what they say, "stupid is, as stupid does. NOW hold on I am not really saying you are stupid but maybe the harshness in what I say will bring your good thinking in line with what you are doing. You're probably smart enough by what you say I in regard to getting up and editing so use that good sense you have more than not. I myself at age 63 am learning that my past behavior has had big repercussions on my life now.
OH God I wish I had listened to my heart and good sense and others, my friends, instead of my inappropriate actions for my welfare as well as others. If I only knew all of the past I fvcked up would effect on my older senior days. I always thought "It won't happen to me" , "hey I'm really not like that, or that guy".
Wishing you the best, :wavery:
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
ok..
lets see how you do about editing your behavior
this whole thing is a bad fucking joke.
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
Roush
I am banned!
I've had posts on here before that I did wasted late at night and woke up,the next morning not remembering ever posting what I posted.. Happens to the best of us
But full bore into my current cycle that shits gotta end , the two just don't mixSimilar threads
