How much testosterone to keep ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone normal?

Roid55

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I have been using the blast and cruise method for many years. I am not new to the game but I am new to steroid testing. I am going to be tested for my ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone in urine test. Obviously it is not a seriouse test as which it would be a blood test if it was seriouse. So I am in no way cheating or in any competitive sport. I know my test levels will be rock bottom without supplementing with testosterone. So all I really am asking is how much test e would be required to make my ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone normal? I know it is probuly a low amount and I just want enough testosterone for normal function, not for performance enhancing. My other question is once I get my ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone normal would adding tren e affect that in any way? I belive it wouldn't but just want to make sure. Thank u
 
if i'm not mistaken the average ration of test/epitest is 1:1. i dont think there's really any easy way of figuring this out without finding out how much epiT your body produces, then experimenting with doses to figure out how much you need to inject to match it....

sounds like a pain in the ass to me
 
I don't think you will be able to fool the test in this way (by choosing an appropriate dose). Once you start taking exogenous testosterone and suppress your own production, you will be suppressing epitestosterone as well and your ratio will climb.

I'm sure that there are some really advanced cheaters out there that have figured out a way around this, but they're probably not talking.
 
I don't think you will be able to fool the test in this way (by choosing an appropriate dose). Once you start taking exogenous testosterone and suppress your own production, you will be suppressing epitestosterone as well and your ratio will climb.

I'm sure that there are some really advanced cheaters out there that have figured out a way around this, but they're probably not talking.
exogenous test administration has no effect on epitest production.
 
exogenous test administration has no effect on epitest production.

Do you have a reference for this? Seems illogical since epitest is at least partly produced in the testes. Testes would have to continue to produce epitest when test production is suppressed. Doesn't make much sense.
 
ummm wikipedia? lol. i'll fetch some, but ive read numerous times that it has no effect. let me see what i can dig up...
 
Do you have a reference for this? Seems illogical since epitest is at least partly produced in the testes. Testes would have to continue to produce epitest when test production is suppressed. Doesn't make much sense.

Jozfip is right haha that's why they use that to test because it dosnt rise or decrease so then they can use the ratio
 
Jozfip is right haha that's why they use that to test because it dosnt rise or decrease so then they can use the ratio

Sorry but that reasoning doesn't make any sense. We know epitest doesn't rise, but the T/E ratio will change whether it decreases or remains unchanged, and that is the question here.
 
Sorry but that reasoning doesn't make any sense. We know epitest doesn't rise, but the T/E ratio will change whether it decreases or remains unchanged, and that is the question here.

Yeah that's what he he's saying. Even though the epitest dost rise or fall the ratio will
 
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