I listened and now I will start test cypionate

[Hugepecks91]

Okay. So a few weeks back I was a dumbass and thought I could do a deca only cycle and got raged on by a bunch of people. I got myself a new contact who is going to sell me testosterone cypionate and was wondering for a first cycle if 500mg a week was too much? I read the massive newbie info forum and everyone gives it and ok to go but if I take a lower dosage for 350-400mg a week for a first cycle willit change anything as far as the sides go? Also speaking of side effects
I know test is much more androgenic than deca so I was wondering for acne how I can combat that if I do get it. I have generally clear skin but just incase crazy hit does happen is there something I can take to fix the problem?
As far as the gains go with a clean diet how much can I expect to keep? I have read with test you take 3 steps forward and 2 steps bak as far as LBM gains go. Is there anything I can do other than pct to improve those odds?
I am 6'2" 188 pounds and 21 years old. I plan on running a 14 week cycle of test cypionate at 350-500mg each week depending on the response I get from the question above. I will be taking 20mg novaldex a day to prevent gyno and will icrease the dosage if symptoms occur. I have prepared clomid and nolva for post cycle therapy (pct).
Would love feedback on dosages and plans as well as opinions or options for a better pct or anything else that could be useful. Thanks

 

[brown1106]

I'm also a noob, I have been using 500mg week test for a few weeks. Only side I am having is my boys down there are shrinking and your ability to ejaculate will effected. If you have access to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), that will take care of that part. You will need to keep an eye on estrogen levels so the gyno won't be an issue. As far as acne, I have it all over my body but have done well to keep it off my face. Tanning bed should help with that.

 

[FormerFatty]

Good job on the going test only for your first cycle. Lets you know how your body reacts to a new compound later on also lets you get your dosages down just right. Don't forget about blood work if you can get it in your area. Cold hard numbers is the best gauge and it is cheap. As for Acne, me personally I notice those deep back pimples and on my shoulders happen when my estro is getting out of wack so keep an eye on that. Not saying it is at gyno levels or anything but when it gets high for me I notice that happen.

 

[Hugepecks91]

Good job on the going test only for your first cycle. Lets you know how your body reacts to a new compound later on also lets you get your dosages down just right. Don't forget about blood work if you can get it in your area. Cold hard numbers is the best gauge and it is cheap. As for Acne, me personally I notice those deep back pimples and on my shoulders happen when my estro is getting out of wack so keep an eye on that. Not saying it is at gyno levels or anything but when it gets high for me I notice that happen.

What should I look for in the blood work and what should I base what I'm looking for to what I should dose and or take? For example for whatever my levels are naturally what and how should I approach the dosages accordingly?

 

[FormerFatty]

Take a step back buddy and read some stickies in the forum. You seem pretty green and that is not meant to be a put down. Your normal test levels do not matter. When you introduce external test your body stops producing test. So it is not a compounding effect. That is why you get testicular atrophy. As for estro levels every human is different. So first thing you do is before you are on cycle get blood work. That way you know what your normal levels are for me I found out I have naturally higher test and naturally higher estrogen. Then when you are into your cycle 6-8 weeks (on cyp earlier but I stick with eth) in get another. Now you see what your levels look like on cycle. Whether you have good gear or not. Then after PCT you have another to see if your hormones are back in check.

 

[Hugepecks91]

Take a step back buddy and read some stickies in the forum. You seem pretty green and that is not meant to be a put down. Your normal test levels do not matter. When you introduce external test your body stops producing test. So it is not a compounding effect. That is why you get testicular atrophy. As for estro levels every human is different. So first thing you do is before you are on cycle get blood work. That way you know what your normal levels are for me I found out I have naturally higher test and naturally higher estrogen. Then when you are into your cycle 6-8 weeks (on cyp earlier but I stick with eth) in get another. Now you see what your levels look like on cycle. Whether you have good gear or not. Then after PCT you have another to see if your hormones are back in check.

Yah I'm Not starting until I have my information first. Also. I read some stuff on hCG injectables? Is this stuff legal to buy at a pharmacy at will? Is it expensive and does it work?

 

[riprockwell]

Okay. So a few weeks back I was a dumbass and thought I could do a deca only cycle and got raged on by a bunch of people. I got myself a new contact who is going to sell me testosterone cypionate and was wondering for a first cycle if 500mg a week was too much? I read the massive newbie info forum and everyone gives it and ok to go but if I take a lower dosage for 350-400mg a week for a first cycle willit change anything as far as the sides go? Also speaking of side effects
I know test is much more androgenic than deca so I was wondering for acne how I can combat that if I do get it. I have generally clear skin but just incase crazy hit does happen is there something I can take to fix the problem?
As far as the gains go with a clean diet how much can I expect to keep? I have read with test you take 3 steps forward and 2 steps bak as far as LBM gains go. Is there anything I can do other than pct to improve those odds?
I am 6'2" 188 pounds and 21 years old. I plan on running a 14 week cycle of test cypionate at 350-500mg each week depending on the response I get from the question above. I will be taking 20mg novaldex a day to prevent gyno and will icrease the dosage if symptoms occur. I have prepared clomid and nolva for post cycle therapy (pct).
Would love feedback on dosages and plans as well as opinions or options for a better pct or anything else that could be useful. Thanks

Cycle looks good except for one thing. Don't run Nolva throughout the cycle man. Nolva is a SERM and only blocks estrogen at the breast tissue but it does not lower estrogen in your body. The only thing Nolva is useful for in this situation is PCT and even then, I just run clomid only. Run Arimidex throughout your cycle and if you get any signs of gyno, you can always order some letro and blast the gyno away. Nolva is completely pointless. I used to run nolva back in the day during cycles because that is all that was around, but that is old school man. But being you can get arimidex or aromasin anywhere, drop the Nolva during the cycle. Other than that, it looks decent. Also, I would run some HCG throughout your cycle as well dosed at 250ius twice per week. Good luck.

 

[brown1106]

Just depends on your levels. I mean if you do labs and they come back at 700, then you wouldn't want to pin 500mg per week. Mine came back at 110, so I needed some drastic help. Now mine is at 1200 and I feel good. Fell like working out. You need to keep an eye on your estrogen levels. T can be converted to estrogen and then you would need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to help with that. Test started shrinking my nuts and now I am looking for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to combat that. Gotta take care of my boys lol... Hope this helps.

 

[FormerFatty]

Hey brown as for the test levels I don't agree with you buddy. Testosterone does not have a compounding effect so if you have 700 level of Test and you take a 600mg cycle the numbers don't add to each other. Your own testosterone output will turn off and all you are left with is the extraneous testosterone. Not all hormones work this way. As for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is is a hormone that can be used on cycle to reduce testicular atrophy. It is injected subcutaneously not intra muscular. Also it is believed to assist in post cycle therapy (pct). Some guys swear by it others don't. Where is crazymike and bigherm when I need them ;-) I have been off the board for a bit.

This is how sports guys beat steroid testing. They stick with test only and cruise or cycle off suring competition. Many of the guys I know cruise because it is easier to dial in a high but legal testosterone levels. Only a few states use testing that can tell if the testosterone is natural or extraneous. The dumb guys who get caught are the ones that run known testable compounds like winstrol. But they get tempted during weight cuts because win has a huge dry out effect. Thats also where you start to see ligament injuries. Tell tale signs of athletes pushing Winstrol (winny) during weight cuts. Remember I said weight cut not fat loss. Only diet helps with the fat.

 

[brown1106]

I don't doubt what you say at all. I am still learning as I'm very new to this. You look like u know what your are talking about and I appreciate you correcting me. Last thing I want to do is give someone wrong info! I just know doing 500mg per week works well for me. I chose just to do test alone for a while to try and adapt to the new feeling. It has made a huge impact in my life. I'm truly sorry if I mislead anyone. Not my intention.

 

[Hugepecks91]

Cycle looks good except for one thing. Don't run Nolva throughout the cycle man. Nolva is a SERM and only blocks estrogen at the breast tissue but it does not lower estrogen in your body. The only thing Nolva is useful for in this situation is PCT and even then, I just run clomid only. Run Arimidex throughout your cycle and if you get any signs of gyno, you can always order some letro and blast the gyno away. Nolva is completely pointless. I used to run nolva back in the day during cycles because that is all that was around, but that is old school man. But being you can get arimidex or aromasin anywhere, drop the Nolva during the cycle. Other than that, it looks decent. Also, I would run some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout your cycle as well dosed at 250ius twice per week. Good luck.

Sao how much of the arimidex should I take per day and if I do get letting how much of that should I take if gyno becomes a prevalent prob? Also for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is it legal to buy in pharmacies? Or do I have to find my own source?

 

[hijacked]

You can run your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) sub q or IM. Personally, i run it IM mixed with my B12.