Insulin users/Expected gains
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Jyzza the stack of GH slin and meds is very dificut to beat the gains are incredible strenth gains muscle mass gains literaly a overnight transformation but the gains will vary from user to user it realy is not fair to point out a number of how much weight someone will gain with that stack because everyone is diferent
INSULIN and BODYBUILDING
Unbridled enthusiasm is a common characteristic for most fledgling beginners. With this unbridled enthusiasm comes an unquenchable thirst for knowledge, which manifests itself as childlike curiosity. Unfortunately, like a sponge these fledgling beginners absorb any and all information and misinformation thrown their way. With this ferocity for learning, these new trainees embark on training programs from muscle magazines, advice from gym rats, and any other advice from anyone willing to give it.
The role of insulin is a current topic reverberating through gyms everywhere. Insulin is a hormone best known for its role in glucose metabolism. In an attempt to provide some clear scientific information to our trainers, this article will discuss the different classifications of carbohydrates, and how the body regulates blood glucose levels. Practical applications to bodybuilders will close out the article.
Carbohydrates
Carbohydrates provide direct energy for the human brain, central nervous system, and muscle cells in the form of glucose (blood sugar). Carbohydrates can be broken down into simple carbohydrates or complex carbohydrates.
Simple Carbohydrates are sugars, organic compounds whose bonds are easily broken down by digestion. Sugars are classified as monosaccharides (mono = one), or disaccharides (di= two). Monosaccharides include glucose, galactose, and fructose. Disaccharides are two monosaccharide units linked together and include maltose (two glucose units), sucrose (fructose plus glucose), and lactose (galactose plus glucose). Your body only has the ability to absorb monosaccharides into the blood.
Complex carbohydrates are defined as polysaccharides (poly = many) that are found in starch and fiber. Starches are polysaccharides humans can digest, but must be broken down into monosaccharides before they can be taken into the blood. Polysaccharides are either linear (amylose-polymer of 400 to thousands of glucose) or branched (amlyopectin-polymer containing hundreds of glucose). Glycogen (stored glucose within the muscle), is similar in structure to amylopectin, and will be discussed later in bodybuilding applications. Cellulose is fiber within vegetables which humans are unable to break down and absorb into the blood.
How the Body Uses Carbohydrates
The body, after digestion and absorption through the walls of the small intestines, can put glucose to work in three ways.
It can burn the glucose immediately within mitochondria, releasing carbon dioxide, water and energy.
If the glucose is not needed immediately, it is converted by the liver or the muscles into glycogen. Muscle glycogen provides energy only to muscles. Liver glycogen can supply energy to any part of the body.
Any glucose left over after glycogen saturation is converted to fat by the liver, and stored in adipose tissue around the body. The degree and pattern of fat buildup depends on an array of factors, but are primarily linked to whether a person consistently consumes more calories than are burned through activity.
Blood-Sugar Connection
The body’s natural regulatory system automatically maintains close control over the level of blood glucose. The body has approximately 20 grams of blood borne glucose circulating continuously. If blood sugar increases then the pancreas releases insulin. If this level is too low than glucagon is released.
Pancreas
Monitors blood glucose concentrations
If blood glucose level is too high Insulin is released If glucose level is too low Glucagon is released
Signals Signals
Fat and muscle cells to Absorb glucose liver to break down glycogen and release glucose to the blood
thus lowering blood glucose to normal levels hus raising blood glucose to normal levels
Happens right after a meal Happens between meals
Note: Muscle glycogen does not provide glucose to the blood. Muscle glycogen is used only by muscle tissue.
Bodybuilding Applications
It is important for bodybuilders to understand that when insulin levels are high your body will store excess glucose as bodyweight. Unfortunately, your body does not care if it is muscle weight or fat weight. It is important to realize the difference in carbohydrates and their use by muscle tissue. Enzymes within muscles readily metabolize starch, which is broken down into usable glucose. The liver has the intermediary enzymes to convert glucose, fructose, galactose, amino acids, and other metabolites for its glycogen stores. Since your muscles have the ability to store 250 to 400 grams of glycogen and your liver only has the ability to store 100 grams of glycogen, it is advisable to keep a high proportion of your carbohydrate calories from complex sources. As mentioned earlier, muscle glycogen is only used by muscle tissue. Since muscle glycogen is similar to an amylopectin as in starch, it is logical to supply your body with complex carbohydrates to replenish muscle glycogen stores.
At first glance carbohydrates and insulin can be a confusing topic and if left to the rhetoric of the average gym can spawn into a deluge of misinformation. We hope that the article served to clarify some of the confusion surrounding carbohydrates and insulin.
INSULIN and BODYBUILDING
Unbridled enthusiasm is a common characteristic for most fledgling beginners. With this unbridled enthusiasm comes an unquenchable thirst for knowledge, which manifests itself as childlike curiosity. Unfortunately, like a sponge these fledgling beginners absorb any and all information and misinformation thrown their way. With this ferocity for learning, these new trainees embark on training programs from muscle magazines, advice from gym rats, and any other advice from anyone willing to give it.
The role of insulin is a current topic reverberating through gyms everywhere. Insulin is a hormone best known for its role in glucose metabolism. In an attempt to provide some clear scientific information to our trainers, this article will discuss the different classifications of carbohydrates, and how the body regulates blood glucose levels. Practical applications to bodybuilders will close out the article.
Carbohydrates
Carbohydrates provide direct energy for the human brain, central nervous system, and muscle cells in the form of glucose (blood sugar). Carbohydrates can be broken down into simple carbohydrates or complex carbohydrates.
Simple Carbohydrates are sugars, organic compounds whose bonds are easily broken down by digestion. Sugars are classified as monosaccharides (mono = one), or disaccharides (di= two). Monosaccharides include glucose, galactose, and fructose. Disaccharides are two monosaccharide units linked together and include maltose (two glucose units), sucrose (fructose plus glucose), and lactose (galactose plus glucose). Your body only has the ability to absorb monosaccharides into the blood.
Complex carbohydrates are defined as polysaccharides (poly = many) that are found in starch and fiber. Starches are polysaccharides humans can digest, but must be broken down into monosaccharides before they can be taken into the blood. Polysaccharides are either linear (amylose-polymer of 400 to thousands of glucose) or branched (amlyopectin-polymer containing hundreds of glucose). Glycogen (stored glucose within the muscle), is similar in structure to amylopectin, and will be discussed later in bodybuilding applications. Cellulose is fiber within vegetables which humans are unable to break down and absorb into the blood.
How the Body Uses Carbohydrates
The body, after digestion and absorption through the walls of the small intestines, can put glucose to work in three ways.
It can burn the glucose immediately within mitochondria, releasing carbon dioxide, water and energy.
If the glucose is not needed immediately, it is converted by the liver or the muscles into glycogen. Muscle glycogen provides energy only to muscles. Liver glycogen can supply energy to any part of the body.
Any glucose left over after glycogen saturation is converted to fat by the liver, and stored in adipose tissue around the body. The degree and pattern of fat buildup depends on an array of factors, but are primarily linked to whether a person consistently consumes more calories than are burned through activity.
Blood-Sugar Connection
The body’s natural regulatory system automatically maintains close control over the level of blood glucose. The body has approximately 20 grams of blood borne glucose circulating continuously. If blood sugar increases then the pancreas releases insulin. If this level is too low than glucagon is released.
Pancreas
Monitors blood glucose concentrations
If blood glucose level is too high Insulin is released If glucose level is too low Glucagon is released
Signals Signals
Fat and muscle cells to Absorb glucose liver to break down glycogen and release glucose to the blood
thus lowering blood glucose to normal levels hus raising blood glucose to normal levels
Happens right after a meal Happens between meals
Note: Muscle glycogen does not provide glucose to the blood. Muscle glycogen is used only by muscle tissue.
Bodybuilding Applications
It is important for bodybuilders to understand that when insulin levels are high your body will store excess glucose as bodyweight. Unfortunately, your body does not care if it is muscle weight or fat weight. It is important to realize the difference in carbohydrates and their use by muscle tissue. Enzymes within muscles readily metabolize starch, which is broken down into usable glucose. The liver has the intermediary enzymes to convert glucose, fructose, galactose, amino acids, and other metabolites for its glycogen stores. Since your muscles have the ability to store 250 to 400 grams of glycogen and your liver only has the ability to store 100 grams of glycogen, it is advisable to keep a high proportion of your carbohydrate calories from complex sources. As mentioned earlier, muscle glycogen is only used by muscle tissue. Since muscle glycogen is similar to an amylopectin as in starch, it is logical to supply your body with complex carbohydrates to replenish muscle glycogen stores.
At first glance carbohydrates and insulin can be a confusing topic and if left to the rhetoric of the average gym can spawn into a deluge of misinformation. We hope that the article served to clarify some of the confusion surrounding carbohydrates and insulin.
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Jyzza
Owns QualityMuscle.com
Thanks bigmack...I saw this post at Competitivemuscle.....it was posted by you..lol...
I was just asking peoples experience w/ it......how much tey gained and so on....
I do understand that everyone is different and thats why I want all the insulin users to state their gaines made....
I was just asking peoples experience w/ it......how much tey gained and so on....
I do understand that everyone is different and thats why I want all the insulin users to state their gaines made....
well bro i have a friend that gaind 22 pounds in 1 month just by adding slin to his stack because he was alredy using GH and meds and the interesting part of it all is that his bf% only went up a couple % to a total of 10 to 11% bf but his metabolic rate is very fast so that has got something to do with the low bf% increasse plus a fairly clean diet helped
dude2003
New member
I have been using 14iu slin post workout and 2iu in mornings ever since I finished my last cycle 5 weeks ago. I have lost 14 pounds, but it is all fat and water. I have kept all of my strength and muscle even though my calories and protein intake has really dropped. This is the first time I have used it and I will always use it post cycle now because it has definitely kept my gains. I am really happy with the results.
ironmaster
Community Veteran, HGH Guru
I'll be specific. The first time I used insulin in a cycle, I ran a steroid stack that I had used many times before, followed the same excercise routine and diet, took before and after photos, etc. I put on 8 good pounds over and above previous results. The before and after pics show the difference clearly. (12 weeks of humulin r at 12iu with GH after training in the late afternoon, test/deca/dbol.
8 pounds may not sound like a lot, but it is huge for an old guy who hit his genetic peak years ago.
Insulin is anabolic in a variety of cell types, and does give you that bigger, "fuller" look all over.
Insulin does not make you fat unless your diet is shitty.
Needless to say, insulin has been a mainstay in my routine ever since.
8 pounds may not sound like a lot, but it is huge for an old guy who hit his genetic peak years ago.
Insulin is anabolic in a variety of cell types, and does give you that bigger, "fuller" look all over.
Insulin does not make you fat unless your diet is shitty.
Needless to say, insulin has been a mainstay in my routine ever since.
ironmaster
Community Veteran, HGH Guru
I'm in my fourth month on depot and I continue to be impressed with this product. I can see no negative differences in my physique as compared to daily injections. No doubt this is a great solution for the GH user who is on long-term maintenence therapy.......convenient and inexpensive.
If I was still competing, I might supplement the Depot with a daily type GH at about 2 to 3 weeks after the injection, or inject depot every 3 weeks to keep serum levels more even. It makes a perfect base even for the high end competition bodybuilder. We all have days when we can't dose, and traveling with regular GH is a hassle. No problem when the time release depot is in the system.
I'll put together a more complete appraisal shortly with photos. But you can tell.....I'm sold on Depot.
If I was still competing, I might supplement the Depot with a daily type GH at about 2 to 3 weeks after the injection, or inject depot every 3 weeks to keep serum levels more even. It makes a perfect base even for the high end competition bodybuilder. We all have days when we can't dose, and traveling with regular GH is a hassle. No problem when the time release depot is in the system.
I'll put together a more complete appraisal shortly with photos. But you can tell.....I'm sold on Depot.
