Long Time Lurkers First cycle

[swolltroll707]

Sup bros, stats

Age 32
height 5'10
weight 178
body fat 10%

I feel its time and I just wanna say thnks for everybodys posts I have learned alot. I did research for a year so I THINK I am ready. Gear is from Sciroxx and is a legit seller on there website. All ancillaries are Pharmaceutical Grade from Europe. I believe most people make the mistake of relying on research grade, Id rather pay extra and make sure.

8 week cycle
Test Prop1-8: 150mg EOD
Mast Prop?-8: 100 EOD
AI: Aromasin 12.5 EOD
PCT: 6 weeks Clomid 75/75/50/50/50/50

Started Sunday had my second shot today, have done ventral glute both sides. PIP not to bad used a 1 1/2 25g second time and felt better than the 23g. Just wondering when I should start the prop? tempted to just start it now. Anyhow Ill be doing a youtube log as well, ill link it when I get first log done. WIsh me luck!

 

[hell yeah lesbians!]

After researching a year this is the cycle you came up with?

I've got a number of questions about your but the most pressing is why haven't you started the prop? What are you waiting for?

 

[swolltroll707]

After researching a year this is the cycle you came up with?

I've got a number of questions about your but the most pressing is why haven't you started the prop? What are you waiting for?

Yes its is, light cycle IMO. And I wanted to make sure my body could take the frequent pinning, Was going to wait a week, but I will take my first today. IM going to feel like a pin cushion lol

 

[swolltroll707]

After researching a year this is the cycle you came up with?

I've got a number of questions about your but the most pressing is why haven't you started the prop? What are you waiting for?

O yeah what other questions do you have?

 

[Sardis23]

After researching for a year you still decided to use another substance other than test? Especially masteron? And why run six weeks on the post cycle therapy (pct)? There are plenty of first cycle threads that you could have grabbed a pct from. Looks like you should have done a little more research.

 

[swolltroll707]

After researching for a year you still decided to use another substance other than test? Especially masteron? And why run six weeks on the post cycle therapy (pct)? There are plenty of first cycle threads that you could have grabbed a pct from. Looks like you should have done a little more research.

yes i did, because the general rule of thumb is PCT as long as your on, am gettin BW every 2 weeks so if i need longer ill go longer.Masteron is hard shit i kno, looking for advice man not a bunch of dudes tryina b smart asses ( AFTER A YEAR THATS WHAT YOU CHOSE) HOw about some constructive feedback or mayb some props for getting BW and REAL ancillaries , im not an idiot obviously i made my own choice. in the end EVERYBODY DOES THINGS THERE WAY.

 

[hell yeah lesbians!]

Yes its is, light cycle IMO. And I wanted to make sure my body could take the frequent pinning, Was going to wait a week, but I will take my first today. IM going to feel like a pin cushion lol

Pin cushion...precisely why you're supposed to run a long ester your first time. Test E or C, twice a week at 250.

You also said you've already pinned but you haven't touched the prop. I'm assuming you're just running the mast right now? Why is this? In fact why are you running the mast at all? It's your first cycle. Keep it simple and get to know your body's reaction to one compound at a time.

8 weeks? Wrapping it up kinda quick in my opinion (you shouldn't be doing these 2 compounds anyway).

6 weeks of PCT for an 8 week cycle? No.

Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is about the only thing I can get on board with.

 

[swolltroll707]

Pin cushion...precisely why you're supposed to run a long ester your first time. Test E or C, twice a week at 250.

You also said you've already pinned but you haven't touched the prop. I'm assuming you're just running the mast right now? Why is this? In fact why are you running the mast at all? It's your first cycle. Keep it simple and get to know your body's reaction to one compound at a time.

8 weeks? Wrapping it up kinda quick in my opinion (you shouldn't be doing these 2 compounds anyway).

6 weeks of PCT for an 8 week cycle? No.

Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is about the only thing I can get on board with.

LMFAO No no bro, I started the TEST PROP lol not the Mast, and no thank you for the longer esters for me, I am cutting and plus like the idea that if i have bad sides I can manage them quicker. I want to start the MAST today, maybe ill give it another shot after tommorrow and see, honestly idont know if its placebo but i feel great right now. And I could do a 4 week PCT as i said every 2 weeks bloods and what i gotta change I will , well at least my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) of choice gets props lol. And maybe after this cycyle in the winter ill run a 12 week long ester, gotta take babysteps, i figured the added mast would suit what i had in mind in terms of goals

 

[freakyfoot]

Better Get Used To Smart Ass RemarkS If Ur Gonna Act Like A Douchbag Here!!! U Supposedly Researched For A Year And Start Out With Prop And Mast.....Then U Start With The Mast????? And Wonder When U Should Start Prop??? Where Did U Do Your Research??? Obviously Not Here!! Good Luck Brotha.....Ur Gonna Need It!!!

 

[iamcman]

...There's absolutely nothing wrong with him choosing to use masteron in addition to test on his first cycle.




OP: No reason to have waited on starting the mast p. should've just started both at the same time. And you don't have to pin them separately either; you can put both in the syringe at the same time so you're not pinning twice as many times. You can also extend this out to ten weeks and be fine...may as well.

I do agree that running the clomid for more than four weeks is probably pointless though.

You also may find you don't need o use your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at that dose of test considering you're using mast. No need to use it unless symptoms start showing or bloodworm shows you're out of range.

Thumbs up and good luck. Look forward to hearing about how it goes.

 

[Sardis23]

yes i did, because the general rule of thumb is PCT as long as your on, am gettin BW every 2 weeks so if i need longer ill go longer.Masteron is hard shit i kno, looking for advice man not a bunch of dudes tryina b smart asses ( AFTER A YEAR THATS WHAT YOU CHOSE) HOw about some constructive feedback or mayb some props for getting BW and REAL ancillaries , im not an idiot obviously i made my own choice. in the end EVERYBODY DOES THINGS THERE WAY.

Actually the general rule isn't pct for as long as you're on, it is generally four weeks. You have no idea what side effects you will have from test, so good luck figuring out which compound is doing what to you. Not being a smart ass but it really doesn't look like you have researched a year. It's good that you're getting bloodwork.

 

[soldier74]

Just sayin....

 

[swolltroll707]

Better Get Used To Smart Ass RemarkS If Ur Gonna Act Like A Douchbag Here!!! U Supposedly Researched For A Year And Start Out With Prop And Mast.....Then U Start With The Mast????? And Wonder When U Should Start Prop??? Where Did U Do Your Research??? Obviously Not Here!! Good Luck Brotha.....Ur Gonna Need It!!!

Bro look at my first post i was cheerful and chill, i bite back thats all. didnt start with Mast started with the test. If you really mean good luck, Thnk you. O yeah and a by a year i dont mean every dam day lol a lil reading here and there so mayb 3 moths total combining ever second lol?

Actually the general rule isn't pct for as long as you're on, it is generally four weeks. You have no idea what side effects you will have from test, so good luck figuring out which compound is doing what to you. Not being a smart ass but it really doesn't look like you have researched a year. It's good that you're getting bloodwork.

I ve read for weeks Ive read 6 weeks in places, either way Clommid is an effective test booster which is why clinical trials are being run on a varient of it as an alternative for TRT. Thank you though I think you mean well

...There's absolutely nothing wrong with him choosing to use masteron on addition to test on his first cycle.




OP: No reason to have waited on starting the mast p. should've just started both at the same time. And you don't have to pin them separately either; you can put both in the syringe at the same time so you're not pinning twice as many times. You can also extend this out to ten weeks and be fine...may as well.

I do agree that running the clomid for more than four weeks is probably pointless though.

You also may find you don't need o use your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at that dose of test considering you're using mast. No need to use it unless symptoms start showing or bloodworm shows you're out of range.

Thumbs up and good luck. Look forward to hearing about how it goes.

THANK YOU man, i was a lurker in part cuz well ima nice guy but just like to avoid neagtivity you know? But your words are very encouraging and thoughtful. I really appriciate it man, Im that Ronin with no mater or guru so i lurk here. As for stacking both in one shot how would I achieve that? Get a new vial and mix it myself? Clomid 4 weeks then it is lol Im sure I was overkilling. And yes I was thinking the same because of MAsterons anti aromatising abilities, which is another reason i choose it, and I was going to check my BW hope fuly I wont need it. Thanks Again man! ill let you know when I make that youtube channel........think I should show my face? lol BTW gotta go volunteer so ill be back in a few hours if i dont respond

 

[iamcman]

To mix: use a 3ml syringe with a luer-lock tip (the screw-off needles), preferably with like a 22g 1" needle, then buy a box of just needles (without syringe) separately in whichever size you want to use to pin.

Unwrap a fresh 3ml syringe w/attached 20g needle and use that needle as your drawing needle. Just draw your dose of each oil out of the vials, basically mixes them together in the syringe. This is fine.

Turn the syringe pointing needle-upwards and draw some air in to suck any remaining oil out of the needle and into the syringe, then cap off the needle and twist it off, and replace it with one of the fresh 25g needles you bought separately. This way the needle you use to inject will be at its sharpest since it hasn't been worn down by being pushed through the rubber stoppers of two vials.

After you've screwed the new needle onto the filled syringe, get all the air out of it, then uncap and you're ready to inject.

No need to get a new vial and mix them together, it's better to do it this way as it ensures accurate dosing. Just draw each into the syringe separately from their respective vials, switch needle to fresh, then shoot.

 

[swolltroll707]

To mix: use a 3ml syringe with a luer-lock tip (the screw-off needles), preferably with like a 22g 1" needle, then buy a box of just needles (without syringe) separately in whichever size you want to use to pin.

Unwrap a fresh 3ml syringe w/attached 20g needle and use that needle as your drawing needle. Just draw your dose of each oil out of the vials, basically mixes them together in the syringe. This is fine.

Turn the syringe pointing needle-upwards and draw some air in to suck any remaining oil out of the needle and into the syringe, then cap off the needle and twist it off, and replace it with one of the fresh 25g needles you bought separately. This way the needle you use to inject will be at its sharpest since it hasn't been worn down by being pushed through the rubber stoppers of two vials.

After you've screwed the new needle onto the filled syringe, get all the air out of it, then uncap and you're ready to inject.

No need to get a new vial and mix them together, it's better to do it this way as it ensures accurate dosing. Just draw each into the syringe separately from their respective vials, switch needle to fresh, then shoot.

Okay , I was however under the impression that you had to suck as much air in the syringe equal to the amount of gear you wanted to create a suction effect, when i do that the gear pushes itself into the syringe, so therefore i could only do it to one because if i did that to the second vial it would mix it? And yes new needles always want to avoid as much PIP as possible ima clean freak as well. So if i do it your way no air pressure can cause vial to break?

 

[surfdog]

just put air into both the vial, before you draw, but it sounds like your going to be doing 2.5ml shots if they are both at 100mg/ml. maybe you should do every day, so your pins aren't so big, just my 2 cents

 

[iamcman]

Okay , I was however under the impression that you had to suck as much air in the syringe equal to the amount of gear you wanted to create a suction effect, when i do that the gear pushes itself into the syringe, so therefore i could only do it to one because if i did that to the second vial it would mix it? And yes new needles always want to avoid as much PIP as possible ima clean freak as well. So if i do it your way no air pressure can cause vial to break?

Not at all necessary to put air into the vials, it just helps speed up drawing the oil.

But it is possible and actually easy to put air into the second vial when there's already oil in the syringe. Just draw dose from first syringe, remove needle from vial, then turn the syringe needle-side-up and suck in the necessary amount of air. Then flick it until all the oil is at the bottom, turn the 2nd vial upside down, stick it in and push all the air in, stopping just before the last little bit of air exits the needle. Then draw the plunger back out until you've got the right amount and you're good to go.

It sounds a little more complicated than it is. Pretty easy once you've done it once or twice.

 

[swolltroll707]

just put air into both the vial, before you draw, but it sounds like your going to be doing 2.5ml shots if they are both at 100mg/ml. maybe you should do every day, so your pins aren't so big, just my 2 cents

I decided bigger dose over more pins lol

Not at all necessary to put air into the vials, it just helps speed up drawing the oil.

But it is possible and actually easy to put air into the second vial when there's already oil in the syringe. Just draw dose from first syringe, remove needle from vial, then turn the syringe needle-side-up and suck in the necessary amount of air. Then flick it until all the oil is at the bottom, turn the 2nd vial upside down, stick it in and push all the air in, stopping just before the last little bit of air exits the needle. Then draw the plunger back out until you've got the right amount and you're good to go.

It sounds a little more complicated than it is. Pretty easy once you've done it once or twice.

Did it! was alil tricky at first but i pulled it off haha thnx man hope to have that youtube vid up soon. Question though. I weighed myself on Friday i was 178, I started On Sun with Test Prop and on Mon i was 176, no biggie but then I weighed myself on wends and i was 174 lol -_- people that dont know what im doin say im lookin leaner and lost fat since last thurs (people in my conditioning class) is that a good sign? Oh and I feel more energy juss no mornin wood that i was expecting though