Low dose PCT with test only cycle

[Testosterone Q]

I will follow this;

Clomid: 25/25/25/25
Nolvadex: 20/20/20/20

Why should i use more dose if i use test with hCG? Are my testicles still active with hCG? If so, why more doses?

 

[Megatron28]

Why not less?

 

[Testosterone Q]

Low doses works too.

 

[Megatron28]

Low doses works too.

But why not lower doses?

 

[Testosterone Q]

But why not lower doses?

I am asking this to you. Maybe even 12.5 mg clomid and 10 mg nolvadex will do the job. I dont know. I am just thinking if you use test with hCG, you dont need more. Low doses PCT will work i think.

 

[Megatron28]

I am asking this to you. Maybe even 12.5 mg clomid and 10 mg nolvadex will do the job. I dont know. I am just thinking if you use test with hCG, you dont need more. Low doses PCT will work i think.

You are the one who proposed the lower than normal doses. I am asking you why. And I am asking you why not even lower doses. Surely you have a reason for thinking you need lower than normal PCT doses. Why?

 

[Testosterone Q]

You are the one who proposed the lower than normal doses. I am asking you why. And I am asking you why not even lower doses. Surely you have a reason for thinking you need lower than normal PCT doses. Why?

Because i will use hCG on cycle.

 

[rikardo82]

hcg just allow testicles work but if testicles work does not yet mean that HPTA work low doses may not be enough fuel to restart your engine... like for car in cold winter day after it stayed idle for month need some exact voltage to crank it up and get it running same with HPTA sure low voltage battery may crank it little bit but then it will stop again...

 

[Megatron28]

Because i will use hCG on cycle.

So what? Everyone should use hCG on cycle. It helps keep your testicles from atrophying. PCT is also concerned with getting your pituitary working again. What will hCG on cycle do for your pituitary (besides suppressing it)?

 

[Testosterone Q]

So what? Everyone should use hCG on cycle. It helps keep your testicles from atrophying. PCT is also concerned with getting your pituitary working again. What will hCG on cycle do for your pituitary (besides suppressing it)?

Yeah you're right. So PCT should be like this: Clomid: 50/50/50/50 and Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20?

What about TRT doctors? Do they recommend this PCT for test only cycle? Btw my cycle dosage is 500 mgs 16 weeks.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Yeah you're right. So PCT should be like this: Clomid: 50/50/50/50 and Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20?

What about TRT doctors? Do they recommend this PCT for test only cycle? Btw my cycle dosage is 500 mgs 16 weeks.

Looks much better.

TRT guys don't PCT, but if they needed to come off for any reason they would run the same. We recommend that PCT for any and all cycles.

 

[Testosterone Q]

What doctors recommend about PCT for steroid users?

 

[Megatron28]

What doctors recommend about PCT for steroid users?

Doctors do not recommend that guys use steroids except for things like TRT. Certainly not at the doses guys use for cycles.

 

[Testosterone Q]

Doctors do not recommend that guys use steroids except for things like TRT. Certainly not at the doses guys use for cycles.

What? Professional bodybuilders have a doctor for their steroid usage. Of course there are doctors who know how to use anabolic steroids and how to run proper PCT.

 

[Megatron28]

What? Professional bodybuilders have a doctor for their steroid usage. Of course there are doctors who know how to use anabolic steroids and how to run proper PCT.

Not many. And they would lose their licenses for doing this in the open.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Not many. And they would lose their licenses for doing this in the open.

Exactly. And there's a difference between a doctor monitoring someone using AAS to help them stay as healthy as possible whilst doing it, as opposed to prescribing/encouraging the use and advising on cycle plans lol.. But then again, who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

 

[Testosterone Q]

Not many. And they would lose their licenses for doing this in the open.

I wanna follow what studies say. Because there are so many wrong text. For example, before now people use 300 mg clomid or 5000 iu hCG at a time. Now, we use small doses for hCG because this is true. So, i am afraid of making mistakes. For example, clomid have visual problems.

 

[Megatron28]

I wanna follow what studies say. Because there are so many wrong text. For example, before now people use 300 mg clomid or 5000 iu hCG at a time. Now, we use small doses for hCG because this is true. So, i am afraid of making mistakes. For example, clomid have visual problems.

What does your doctor recommend?

 

[omgmike1]

Exactly. And there's a difference between a doctor monitoring someone using AAS to help them stay as healthy as possible whilst doing it, as opposed to prescribing/encouraging the use and advising on cycle plans lol.. But then again, who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

I had this problem with my doc. He saw I was on gear and I tried to talk to him about just coming in for general bloods and things of that nature and he told me to my face that he would not help a steroid user. Pretty pathetic to me, if anything he should at least have some respect that I was willing to discuss this with him and tell him I'd like to do it as safely as possible, not like I was asking him to provide me gear or anything

I wanna follow what studies say. Because there are so many wrong text. For example, before now people use 300 mg clomid or 5000 iu hCG at a time. Now, we use small doses for hCG because this is true. So, i am afraid of making mistakes. For example, clomid have visual problems.

Who uses 300mg clomid at a time? Normal PCT run with like 50 ED and then reduce it to 25.. Even Power huge blast PCT protocols after many years on gear non-stop, don't even run more than 100 ED.

HCG should be used during the cycle, u don't need that much of it. Low dosage even at 250 PW if okay, 500IU is better than 1000 is most optimal. Only time u need to run like 2500 is like I said above if ur coming back from many years attempting to recover.

Out of ur entire cycle of test only, why would u skimp down on PCT if it's bothering u that much.

 

[Roush]

What? Professional bodybuilders have a doctor for their steroid usage. Of course there are doctors who know how to use anabolic steroids and how to run proper PCT.

This is a myth. Most doctors are clueless in regards to AAS usage and know how,, and most bodybuilders prefer help and assistance from trainers and others in the scene, not docs .

This is bodybuilding, not the Russian Olympic power lifting team