May be going to the darkside...Powerlifting style.

Tryn2

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Ok I was on 5x5 and now am lost with my new and 3rd member of my workout group who is unorganized and all over the place with 8 to 10 rep crazy shit. I have to get a plan and get back on target...

OK using this from the sticky written by Pullinbig.
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I have several people a day asking me for a routine. So......

Here’s a generic one that is a good starting point. This is a mass building routine. Probably less volume than you are used too but very effective. 3 days per week because that’s all most folks can handle if they are training heavy. They key is forced/assisted reps. Painful but very effective if you really want to put on size. This does no include warm ups so that is up to you to make sure you are stretched and plenty warm before performing work sets. A work set is defined as a set that you just barely get all reps or need assistance on one or two reps. If you get all the reps fairly easily then it is a warm up and not a work set. Add abs and cardio on the days off to fit your needs.


Monday:
Squats 2 x 5
Box squats 2 x 4
Leg presses 2 x 5 (pick two of these pressing movements)
weighted abs 2 x 20
Calves (your choice of exercise) 2 x 10

Tuesday:
Wide grip flat bench 2 x 6
Decline medium grip bench 2 x 6
Weighted dips 2 x 10
Upright rows or side laterals 1 x 10

Thursday:
Dead lifts 2 x 5 (or a variation of)
Posterior core movement 2 x 10-20.
weighted abs 2x20
Bent over rows 2 x 4
Reverse grip narrow grip pull downs 2 x 6
Standing wide grip curls 2 x 8

Every one of these movements is a mass building exercise. These are the essential movements for putting on size. Rest and nutrition are just as important as lifting, neglect any one of the three and you will not grow. Juice or no juice all will grow with this routine or a similar one. Consistency is the key. Adding 5 lbs to the bar every other week equals 130lbs/year. Not bad considering many are moving the same weight year in year out. Strength gains are the key to growth, not other way around.

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Ok my schedule loved me working in the gym Monday, tuesday, thurs, fri..though I can change that I seem to like 4 days but I am willing to go back to 3 days if I must.

Are these Ok ???
1. Ill prob leave out box squats and do squats and leg press.
2. Posterior core movement (work my ass?)
3. Love cleans and my traps respond can I put them in somewhere?
4. Ok I see the work being done...though I also like these can they be in ?
- Military smith
- CG presses

My weak areas, arms and chest....My legs are very strong. (relatively) I have free squatted 405 for 5 parallel yes I dont have a video of it but if it aint its damn close. I leg press over 1200 for about 6 and could push further. Yet I straight bar curl then 10's or maybe 15 on each side. Uhm bench 225 for one....205 for about 6 or so. Dead Ive pulled 375 for reps but workout with 315 and a little more depending on the mood.

I need to get back into heavy training. My progress isnt where it should be (Pulln did you just say to yourself told ya so) Ok anyways Its true there are so many fucking opinions on training Im not sure whos right. I do know everythings worth a try though so I may just fuckin try it.
I would like 4 days but settle for 3...fix me up...Thanks....

I do appreciate all help that is given and taken criticism just fine. If you poke a little fun I really dont give a fuck it make sme leaugh to so go ahead.... :spank:
 
Tryn2 said:
Are these Ok ???
1. Ill prob leave out box squats and do squats and leg press.
2. Posterior core movement (work my ass?)
3. Love cleans and my traps respond can I put them in somewhere?
4. Ok I see the work being done...though I also like these can they be in ?
- Military smith
- CG presses

I'm doing the very basic PB routine as well. I saw great results (currently I am just fixing form on my main lifts though).

1) I did the same but am thinking it was a mistake.
2) The deads and squats seem to give me sufficent work in this area
3) I'd also love to see where to insert these
 
posterior core movemetns include: reverse hypers, GMs, glute ham raise, hypers, pull thrus, etc....

what wrong with box squats?

i have yet to go to a meet and see anyone doing cleans as one of the three lifts.

as far as militarys go you just did three poressing movemetns in a row on chest day now you wanna add a 4th?

decline medium grip is a narrow press.

and BTW a parallel squat gets you redlighted at a meet. so why do them? you want big/strong legs? squat all the way down. if you hittng 405@parallel or slightly above then you gonna get buried with a full range of motion 405. nothing sillier than seeing someone high squatting in the gym.
 
pullinbig said:
i have yet to go to a meet and see anyone doing cleans as one of the three lifts.

Cleans look really fun though... if you were to add them would it be logical to replace DL say once a month with them?
 
Rules said:
Cleans look really fun though... if you were to add them would it be logical to replace DL say once a month with them?

I would think high pulls would be better.
 
Nothings wrong with box squats, I thought it said pick 2 of the 3 so I like that 1 the least and left it out. Maybe I miss understood it but if I didnt it shouldnt say that....

And yes I know cleans are not one of the 3 lifts, I may leave them out. I always try to put a little common sense into it. I did cleans for a few weeks and its the only excersise that left my upper back and traps sore for over 7 days. Just figured it was hittin somehting deads & shrugs were not and I liked that.

Ok I understand the 3 presses and 2 leave out military. My tri's will be fried anyhow.

I FOR ONE FUCKING HATE A NON FULL SQUATTER.... I go very deep and usually all eyes are on me when squatting because of my depth. I can drop down very low. However to feel the weight I put on 405 and did go pretty damn far, far enough proabably not....But I had to try it. I could proabably get a set of 2. Maybe deep enough. I know I can with 375....I just couldnt help myself. Plus all the wuss's in my club type gym squat a 1/4 the way down so even paralell with 405 doesnt look 2 silly when I had to do it........I FOR ONE FUCKIN HATE NON FULL R.O.M, unless you are working a specific part of a movement.
 
i said pick two, meaning for each work out. alternate them. weekly or every so often.

as far as squats go if you parallel or above the 405 would not count in a meet so in my eyes it dont count period. but its your fish, you caught it.

you been talking about PLing for months now. just do the routine or dont. i dont care. make all the mods you want to it. do wsb, dc, IA, MM. dont make any difference to me.

whatever you decide to do post it in the jouranl/training section so we can see how it progresses and we can all learn from it. simple enough?
 
Look I know your right, Im just trying to do what I can to help myself. I guess Im like a scared dog cuz the shit Im doin aint really workin. What make sit hard is trying to get my partners to do it and believe it with me. With the heavy weights on a lot of moevments I need a spot....I like trusting some guys rather then just pulling some crony whos gunna get me hurt if shit hits the fan....Or not push me worth shit anyhow..
Thanks for all your help though...Im gettin hopefully....
 
well even if you're pulling some crazy weight, even if you're pulling more weight each workout, youll be fine. BB or PLing. at least you'll be stronger.
 
Tryn2 said:
Look I know your right, Im just trying to do what I can to help myself. I guess Im like a scared dog cuz the shit Im doin aint really workin. What make sit hard is trying to get my partners to do it and believe it with me. With the heavy weights on a lot of moevments I need a spot....I like trusting some guys rather then just pulling some crony whos gunna get me hurt if shit hits the fan....Or not push me worth shit anyhow..
Thanks for all your help though...Im gettin hopefully....

i train by myself most of the time.

you got a power rack? if so you dont need a spot on squats or benching.

dont need them on deads either.

and if you have a passion for something why you need pushing?

just do it and quit delaying. =0l
 
My only concern for a spot would be bench. I do smith sometimes but I guess I could use the rack.....
 
Yeah, board presses without at least one person, would be interesting. I suppose you can use bands though.
 
ahhh...a while ago, I watched the strongman superseries competition and was impressed...and got interested too. Yeah, those stone-lifting and other powerlifting competitions and stuff. Is it difficult to be a powerlifter?
 
Mudge said:
Yeah, board presses without at least one person, would be interesting. I suppose you can use bands though.

i use a mini band to strap the board to my chest.. that way when doing higher boards only need 1 half way strong person for a spot
 
AngryMuscles said:
Is it difficult to be a powerlifter?

Is it difficult to lift heavy weights? :confused: You also have to think about your routine to break through sticking points, its not so simple as just "lift heavy." Once you get into bands, chains, boards, boxes and all that stuff to continue progressing - so it does require a little brain work on your part.
 
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