My 4th cycle and looking for opinions.

[D.graham0991]

Alright guys my stats are good and I have run D bol, masteron, and all 3 esters of test before with good results. All have been 12 week cycles. Got my diet on point and I am going for an all out 16 week cycle. Never ran tren before so I am going with tren ace in case sides get harsh. Heres the layout:

1-16: Test E 750mg/week
1-12: deca durabolin 500mg/week
11-16: tren ace 350mg/week
1-18: HCG 500 ius 2x/week
1-16: adex .5mg EOD
18: start PCT standard nolva clomid

I will have prami on hand if needed (cant get caber)

I will run bloods and I got my hands on some pharma grade stuff boys. Let me have it.

 

[tbonexl]

Use either tren or deca. You definitely don't want to use both on your first tren run. I just did both for the first time last summer. I had to adjust the doses to say the least. You would be better off running deca for a couple more weeks...

 

[D.graham0991]

What did running both of them do to you? Bad sides im guessing? Id be happy to listen to you just looking for a little more insight.

 

[Scrappy1]

Find your happy place with tren. Between 300-600 mg weekly. Most sides are night sweats and sleep issues. But if you hit the weights hard, you wont have any issues sleeping. I run 200mg weekly of deca no matter what cycle I am on. I notice difference with deca when I am not on it. The joints get sore. I am a believer in Deca. Low doses, minimal water retention. Tren does not alter your personality We still have the choice of being nice or not. But the lean muscle and strength gains are really good with first run. 1/2 - 3/4 pound lean muscle gain weekly would be realistic

 

[Megatron28]

I agree with Tbone on dropping the Deca. Just do test and tren the entire cycle. You will be happy with the results. 350mg/wk of Tren is a good choice.

Adjust your adex dose for the removal of the Deca.

You are starting PCT too soon. 750mg test E/wk needs more than 2 weeks to clear.

I would recommend adding NAC and Liv.52.

 

[D.graham0991]

Sounds like a good idea. How long should that test E take to clear? 3 weeks?

 

[Megatron28]

There are PCT Calculators out there. I would run the numbers through one of them.

I am on TRT so I don't PCT - otherwise I would recommend a particular calculator.

 

[tbonexl]

There's actually a pct calculator. Someone had posted it on this site somewhere. Anyways, you type in your info and it will tell you exactly how long to wait for pct...

 

[tbonexl]

There are PCT Calculators out there. I would run the numbers through one of them.

I am on TRT so I don't PCT - otherwise I would recommend a particular calculator.

Damn you!!!