My Biogen Experience

[bostonpaul]

Bro,
I may not have a lot of Posts here but I have over 900 at outlaw, and six cycles under my belt and I am a rep for liquidmuscle1 over at asf/ironmagazineforums. (no not the scammer lkiquidmuscle) thats some asshl not the same person as LM1

My experience with Biogen last summer was that hardbody1 ended up throwing away 10 viles of deca and 10 viles of test-e, ten viles of tren-e. He got them when sciroxx was temp down so he would be able to help out some of the top customers but ended up throwing the gear out lol!

The first hint was you get what you pay for. The gear was dirt cheap like $25 to $35 a vile.
The test-e, the deca, tren..it all looked the same color.

I even tasted it on my tongue as did he and no chemical taste.

You may have had better luck but he got ripped for $900 worth of gear. I had a friend that wouldnt even take it for free! A rep for HB1
We couldnt GIVE IT AWAY! lol.

Im writing this because we told biogen i would do this for years for ripping Hb1 off.

Ive 6 cycles under my belt and Ive used all typs of gear ,balkan,schering,omas,paki amps,axio,sciroxx,pure gear, and others and other than about biogemn I have never made a negative post about any gear or any sponsor. You check my posts at outlaw and ironmag and asf and youll see im not the kind of guy that bashes or makes things up

I would warn anyone to stay away from biogen...let me put it to you this way Bro..Biogen was thrown off of ironmagazineforums because of massive complaints!

They didnt even use their sub forum and THAT is the second bad sign.

Any sponsor that has a sub forumn on a board they are paying upward from $100 a week to be on and they do not allow customers to comment about the products should be suspect right off unless you know them real well.

Also just google the name biogen and find the complaints far outnumber the good stuff.
In your experiment you already had another GOOD product in you! Home brew tren is the best tren you will ever do.
Ive made my own and know its the way to go. Those little yellow pellets do not lie bro.

Maybe your biogen batch had some tren it it but you be better off using any of the major brands other than biogen for sure.
BP

Ok guys. I got real tired of seeing new biogen threads pop up every other day. People keep saying they placed orders and received their gear, but won't run it for another 6 months. Most of the other reviews are by dudes who nobody knows and only have like 10 or fewer posts. Except for Drewbolic who was nice enough to post his thoughts about biogen in a few threads, but a lot of people overlooked it for some reason. Anyways, I decided to place an order myself so that I could contribute something to the discussion and to our board. Hopefully it's helpful to some of our members.

Background, Goals and Stats:

Age: 30ish
Height: 6'7 ish
Weight: I hover between 340-355lbs
bf%: I don't really know. I don't get this checked often since I don't care about it at all. I can definitely promise you that nobody would mistake me for ***8220;lean***8221; lol.

I've been cycling for around 8 years now. My job is to push dudes around all day long ***8211; I'm a human steam roller. All I care about is strength and, to a lesser extent, maintaining my size. I have absolutely no interest in getting any bigger.

Diet:
I try to get in at least 6,000 ***8211; 8,000 calories each day. It varies a ton depending on a lot of different factors like - how much running in practice that day, how much play time that week, did we have an extra practice session, did my wife drag me shopping with her etc.

The Experiment:
It wouldn't be a good experiment if I just started taking the biogen stuff right from the start of my cycle. Of course I'd see results unless it was totally bunk. So, I've been running 125mg ED of my homebrew Tren Ace. I ran that straight for 3 weeks to let it build up in my body. I ran it until the last day of the third week. On the next day (day 1 of week 4) I switched it out for the Biogen Tren Ace. On day 1 of week 5 I started a new bottle of Tren Ace (vial 2) and on day 1 of week 6 I switched to another new vial (vial 3). I have vials for a few more weeks.

Review / Results:
First off, their shipping is lightning fast. I honestly didn't think it was possible to receive an international package that quickly. I grabbed 2 vials from a friend that he had ordered in December. I double checked that it came from the same place. That let me start this experiment out a few weeks early.

Ok, finally the stuff you guys actually care about:

Week 4 --- A few days after I started taking the biogen tren ace, I noticed my strength slipping. Although, it was still above what I would expect from just taking the other compounds I was on. The only side effects I get from Tren are respiratory trouble and elevated temperature. I still had both through out week 4. At the end of week 4, my strength was noticeably lower than it was at the end of week 3.

Week 5 --- Vial 2 was more of the same. I still noticed the side effects, but my strength was still lower than it was while I was on my home brew tren. I also noticed that it was a little painful at times when taking a piss. That's never happened to me before.

Week 6 --- Here's where I'm at now. I'm starting to notice huge strength gains again. I'm almost back to my week 3 levels. I'll probably be back there by the end of the week. The pissing problems have stopped.

Final Thoughts:
They're definitely handing out real steroids in those vials, that's for sure. The problem seems to be mostly with consistency in concentration. At least in the tren ace. Vials 1 and 2 were definitely under dosed. Vial 3, though, seems to be about right. Like I mentioned before, I have a few more vials so I'll probably keep running at least for another few weeks to see if vials 1 and 2 are the norm. I'll be posting more updates in this thread as the weeks go by.

I ordered some deca and test E from them too which I plan to test in the same way. I'll switch over to them in another week or 2 so that I don't mess with my tren study. I'll post my results on that when the time comes.

Also, quick shout out to ezred for giving me this idea (indirecly lol). Our mini discussion in a previous thread is what sparked this epically long novel. Thanks bro.

 

[bostonpaul]

Bro,
four days is not enough time.
Give the tren-ace ten days and the longer esters 4-5 weeks

But imo you would have benn better off with geneza,axio,puregear, or balkan.
Biogen is cheap to suck you in Bro

They Suck! Unless they started selling legit gear since last summer..its possible but unless they refund my $900 they will never see my business again.
These guys were thrown off of ironmagazineforums for being scammers Bro
Let me ask you...did you go through a legit board and did biogen have a subforum that they allow customers to post in?
If not...you probably got ripped off.

I got some tren ace and tren enanthate from biogen gear
i also got test 400 which is a combination of test propionate, enanthate, cypionate
test prop being 25mg/ml-enanthate being 188mg/ml and test cypionate being 180 somthing/ml
the tren ace is 100mg/ml and enanthate 200mg/ml
so far
within my first week
on monday i took the test 400 1ml of each
on tuesday i took tren ace 100mg
and wednsday i took tren enanthate 400mg

its tursday now

my test levels feel normal
i dont really feel any difference
should i be feeling the effects of either of these gears by now
its been 4 days in total

 

[bostonpaul]

Good post Bro
Biogen sucks the gear was reported in some studies toi have small amounts of gear.
Why they are ripping off I cant say. They could make millions giving out real gear even if the had someone else making it.
BP

hey guys i know i dont have many posts so my thoughts arent looked at as quality. But i ran test,deca biogen for 6 weeks and gained like 7 lbs. I then switched to the test e 250 and tren e. I never got fever or insomnia or any sides you normally get. I bought a bunch of their stuff just to try. long story short didnt feel much and didnt get great gains. customer service was legit but gear is underdosed severly. I got some gp test and just running it low with some gp dbol. taking 70 mg dbol a day. on this stuff and feeling amazing with great pumps and gaining some weight nice and quick as expected from the dbol. anyways took me a while to find the gp and love it. hoping to find a few other products to try. i seen s few different on the site i got gp so i am gonna try after this. i dont mind being a guinea pig so if you guys hear of new stuff and want some feedback hit me up and i will try it and give a complete chart on stuff. seeing as this is glubs thread i dont want to say much that will anger anyone. so i hope your gains get better with the bio. wish i got some decent batch from them but looks like i didnt and who knows maybe when money is tight i might pay biogen another visit. could have just had bad batch. take care you al and God bless

 

[bostonpaul]

bro its the same old story with these scammers every place you look.
Your not saving money if ypour paying $25 to $35 for 10ml of sald oil lol

bp

that's suprising because i had a ton of their dbol that i got free, and gave it all away, the guys who used it said it was garbage. Worst dbol they had ever used and i had 10 packs of it.

I ran their tbol between 60-100mg and it was average. I really liked it at first but after a few weeks it turned out to be average.

I ran 100mg a day of proviron which was very very weak and may have been complete bunk.

My buddy liked the Winstrol (winny) and tbol.

Their blends are bs

i know a group of guys who ran a few hundred ml's of test e, eq, deca, tren, mast and some seemed to have good results while other saw nothing.

Again this is garbage imo. I don't care if one or two products worked. If they have anything that's week or bunk then i wouldn't use them for anything because why gamble and try to guess on what's good and what's not. They could fly it to my door step overnight and i still wouldn't use them. I got all my products free and still didn't want them and i wasn't even willing to try the oils which would have been free as well.

No thanks. When you do a search on this lab and there are so many mixed reviews, it's for a reason. I call them a selective scammer. Some real products but just as many fake or low dosed.

 

[bostonpaul]

YES BRO YOU ARE RIGHT
These guests that had "results" maybe are biogen covering up or maybe biogen throws out a few real ones but in general biogen are scammers. The most consitent thing about Biogen is the complaints!bp

As you can see it has been 3 months since I started the "tested" Biogen gear. Sus 325 and tren acetate 100. A CC of each, three times a week. I don;t care what the lab says... gear was way underdosed. I personally will never try Biogen ever again. Hope my experience will benefit others. Stick with what you know. Remember! You get what you pay for! and.. if it sounds too good to be true! It probably is.

 

[bostonpaul]

That's suprising because I had a ton of their dbol that I got free, and gave it all away, the guys who used it said it was garbage. Worst dbol they had ever used and I had 10 packs of it.

I ran their tbol between 60-100mg and it was average. I really liked it at first but after a few weeks it turned out to be average.