my first cycle! :)

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week 1-4 dianabol (phoenix) 20mg ed
week 1-12 boldenone undecylenate (boldoject) 400mg ew
week 1-12 milk thistle

i've done research on these steroids, but i suppose theres never enough research you can do on the subject as a whole. i'm currently on week 3, so far so good, sex drive is good, bulking hard putting on weight fast, lifting more every week.

I know test with this cycle would make it so much better, but i am sensitive to MPB and don't wanna go bald basically, i know theres a chance this cycle could affect mpb but im running low dosages just to see how i react. i've been using minoxidol and nivorex for years, my hairs all good at moment no one even knows im receeding.

my question is, what type of pct would i be looking at using and for how long?

some details about my self;

age 24
height 6"2
weight 195 pounds (14 stone)
bf roughly about 10-12%
lifting for 4 years natural, feel as i am at my genetic potential
goal: to break through plateau, and gain lean mass

any information t all would be appreciated, cheers lads!
 
Read the stickies for first cycles. Testosterone only. And don't ask why, cause if you do you don't know enough to be using gear.
 
If you're genetically predisposed to MPB, ANY AAS can accelerate hair loss. Sorry man, but no test = no good.

If you're that concerned with your hair, maybe AAS isn't for you?

My .02c :)
 
so what would you recommend as i've already started this cycle, everyone i know has told me i need to add test! what about if i added test 200mg week 4-12 ? a nice light cycle for a beginner ?
 
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As stated MPB can be accelerated by any hormone you put in your body.
As far as no test in your cycle, you are basically taking the base out of it. Test is your baseline and other compounds are added to it. Injecting EQ and taking dbol is going to shut down your natural production and you will have nothing to replace it.
Apart from that dbol is an estrogen bomb you are also in need of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to suppress some of the aromatization.
PCT just read the sticky its gonna be nolvadex and clomid

Again you are wasting your time without a test base and EQ is better ran longer than 12 weeks as results only begin in weeks 8-10 from EQ and not needed in a first cycle as your goal will be attainable with test only
 
so what would you recommend as i've already started this cycle, everyone i know has told me i need to add test! what about if i added test 200mg week 4-10 ? a nice light cycle for a beginner ?

Yes, 200mg would replace the testosterone you've lost to shutting down your own production. Don't forget an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as arimidex/aromasin, when testosterone (dianabol does this too) increases, so does estrogen - and that's where all the nasty sides come from.

Good luck! :)

Edit: Check the AAS section for the stickies on PCT - that'll get you in the right direction. I also agree with what Kaz has to say about length of cycle and the compounds you've chosen. Try to learn about this stuff a bit more before you start putting it in your body next time. ;)
 
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yeah you guys are so right, i thought i knew all this stuff, lads i go to gym with have been on gear for ages, and recommended this cycle to me without a test base, after i've actually researched it my self it kinda feels like theyve been pulling my leg lol, feel like im in to deep now and need to add some test and sort a post cycle therapy (pct) out before i lose my libido
 
Read the stickies for first cycles. Testosterone only. And don't ask why, cause if you do you don't know enough to be using gear.

I love this comment.

yeah you guys are so right, i thought i knew all this stuff, lads i go to gym with have been on gear for ages, and recommended this cycle to me without a test base, after i've actually researched it my self it kinda feels like theyve been pulling my leg lol, feel like im in to deep now and need to add some test and sort a post cycle therapy (pct) out before i lose my libido

Good call. Be smart, be safe.
 
yeah you guys are so right, i thought i knew all this stuff, lads i go to gym with have been on gear for ages, and recommended this cycle to me without a test base, after i've actually researched it my self it kinda feels like theyve been pulling my leg lol, feel like im in to deep now and need to add some test and sort a post cycle therapy (pct) out before i lose my libido

Most definitely get some test into ya asap if you've already started the cycle, I remember starting out back when there were no forums or internet for research and the only edumacation came from the gymrats, dbol only, deca only where some of the advice I was given. Been there bro.. what you are not being told is these guys are also the ones who need viagra and cialis to get an erection because of the bad practices they follow.. Talk to their girlfriends and wives they'll tell ya the real story.. lol

Once you do it properly its an amazing ride. Hell I grew like a weed on 3 sten and 2 dynabolon a week when I sucked it up and asked my uncle for advice(he was a competitive BBer back then and was too scared to ask)...
 
week 1-4 dianabol (phoenix) 20mg ed
week 1-12 boldenone undecylenate (boldoject) 400mg ew
week 1-12 milk thistle

i've done research on these steroids, but i suppose theres never enough research you can do on the subject as a whole. i'm currently on week 3, so far so good, sex drive is good, bulking hard putting on weight fast, lifting more every week.

I know test with this cycle would make it so much better, but i am sensitive to MPB and don't wanna go bald basically, i know theres a chance this cycle could affect mpb but im running low dosages just to see how i react. i've been using minoxidol and nivorex for years, my hairs all good at moment no one even knows im receeding.

my question is, what type of pct would i be looking at using and for how long?

some details about my self;

age 24
height 6"2
weight 195 pounds (14 stone)
bf roughly about 10-12%
lifting for 4 years natural, feel as i am at my genetic potential
goal: to break through plateau, and gain lean mass

any information t all would be appreciated, cheers lads!

Lose the milk thistle...it's not doin jack for your liver...
Invest in some NAC...can buy it at any major food store or order it in bulk on Amazon.
 
So your "lads" at the gym have gear experience, but yet they turn you onto a no test first cycle?? Wow...i'm at a loss for words (trying not to be mean) :)
 
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