my test e / test prop / tren a cycle help please

[xjokerv]

hi
i plan to starting a test e / test p / tren a cycle and i wanted to know if this is ok since this is my first time using testosterone propionate .

m test e 250 mg + 100 mg test p
t 100 mg test p
w x
t 250 mg + 100 mg test p
f : 100 mg test p
s : 100 mg test p
s: x

i front load with test p the first 4 weeks ive made a lot of resarch and i just want to make sure if this test p test e combinaison is correct . Also i wanted to know if i can inject my tren a every single time im injecting my test p ?
i want to inject 75 mg of tren a each time i inject 100 mg of test p is this correct ? and do you guys this 75mg of tren a EOD is enouf for a first time user of tren .. ?

My last question is : im still thinking of adding some dbol or drol for the first 4 weeks and if i do this should i start the tren at the same time or i will get better results if i start the next day of my last pillz of drol/dbol ?


thank you for helping me out
age : 24
body weight currently 170 ( just finished my cut )
height 5f9
BF : 8 % or so

 

[xjokerv]

anyone .. ? plz help me

 

[halfwit]

How many cycles do you have under your belt?

 

[xjokerv]

this is my 4th cycle
1st was winstrol only 6 weeks 50mg day
second cycle was test e 500 mg w for 12 week
3rd was test e 750 mg + dbol 60 mg week

thanks for the reply

 

[halfwit]

Okay, second question is why do you want to use two esters at the same time? Are you trying to use prop as a "kick starter" for the cycle, or is this just something you have access to? There's really little benefit other than the faster active time of the prop (yes, I know it has technically more testosterone per volume for you smart asses out there) compared to enanthate or cypionate. I'm a big fan of keeping things simple, so if it were me, I'd just keep it one ester and toss in an oral kicker or the tren if you feel you're ready. You can mix a longer ester with tren without any issues in my experience.

If you want to go down the tren path, which I think is still a hair early for you as you don't have experience yet with a 19-nor, 75mg EOD is a fine starting dose and can be injected the same time as your testosterone. Just be sure to not only have your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) going as well as a dopamine agonist such as pramipexole or cabergoline. Be warned, tren is not for the light hearted and has the potential for some nasty side effects. You will want to be in a good place both mentally and physically with this drug as it can either make you or break you.

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[xjokerv]

first thank you for helping me its really appreciated

okay so yea i admit im a little afraid about the tren but i run it at only 75mg eod ... do u think it can affect me in a wrong way even at a small doses like 75 mg .
And sice its my first time with tren what should i expect in terms of gainz and do u think i should add drol/dbol for the first 4 weeks , if yes should i do the tren week 1-8 or 4-12 and did u ever had any problem with this powerful compound ?
thank you again

 

[halfwit]

first thank you for helping me its really appreciated

okay so yea i admit im a little afraid about the tren but i run it at only 75mg eod ... do u think it can affect me in a wrong way even at a small doses like 75 mg .
And sice its my first time with tren what should i expect in terms of gainz and do u think i should add drol/dbol for the first 4 weeks , if yes should i do the tren week 1-8 or 4-12 and did u ever had any problem with this powerful compound ?
thank you again

That's a pretty mild dose and while you'll likely see less sides, everyone is different and you very well could see some nasty surprises. I wouldn't run an oral if you go with tren as you will want to see how it is effecting you without the additional sides that many orals bring to the table. This will allow you to make an informed decision whether or not tren is for you. I would run it from week 1 as it will reach serum levels faster and acts similar to a slower acting oral in that regard while you wait for the testosterone to reach serum levels.

While I'm one of the lucky ones, I do suffer some of the side effects that come with the territory such as: vivid nightmares (Think killing people with your hands), insomnia, night sweats, tren cough, respiratory impairment (you can forget about high intensity cardio), elevated liver values (worse than any oral I've ever taken), and the worst in my opinion - mental sides. Trenbolone has this nasty ability to make you think things are real that are just fragments of your subconscious. You might become insanely jealous or overprotective of your girlfriend/wife, you might think people are being rude to you that aren't, you may find yourself not being a very fun guy to be around. While I never get 'roid rage', I did have one instance where I thought my wife was cheating on me as she was home early one day unannounced. I literally would have killed someone if they had been in the house with her even if it was purely innocent such as a friendly neighbor or coworker paying a visit. It's not something to take lightly at all and needs to be respected.

Gains are a product of diet and training in combination with the drug. Tren is the king of AAS for a reason, but you will only get out of it what you put in. If your diet or training are crap, so will your gains be. If you eat right and train hard, you can expect fantastic gains.

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