Need help! pct after sustanon/dianabol

[jko30]

Hi All

I am writing this as I really would like some help. I started using steriods in november 2014. 2x dianabol daily and 700mg sustanon per week for about 6 weeks. Then went off for about 4 weeks with no pct. Didnt really feel any different. Then started the same again for 6 weeks, off for 4 weeks and did it again for 8 weeks after that. I have now been off for about 6 weeks and starting pct next week which will consist of proviron, clomid and tamoplex. I have no libido at the moment and feeling very anxious. I really hope this will get me back to normal as i dont ever want to do this again.

Will i ever recover from this? If there is anyone that can help me please message or comment. I am extremely worried that i wont go back to normal after this. Went to my dr and got blood test done which i will get back next few days. I really would appreciate some advice. Will i ever go back to normal?

 

[Megatron28]

Have you gotten blood work ever? If so post it up.

You need to run PCT, not what you have listed above. PCT consists of Clomifene (Clomid) and Tamaxifen (Nolva). That's it. No other stuff.

And stop running stupid cycles in the future.

How old are you?

 

[jko30]

Have you gotten blood work ever? If so post it up.

You need to run PCT, not what you have listed above. PCT consists of Clomifene (Clomid) and Tamaxifen (Nolva). That's it. No other stuff.

And stop running stupid cycles in the future.





How old are you?

Thanks so much for the response. i had bloodwork done yesterday. Waiting for the results. Im 30.
i definitely wont run any cycles in future. I really hope i can come out of this ok. How long does it take in pct?

 

[Megatron28]

Given the poor way you ran cycles, I would run PCT for 6 weeks.

Let's see you blood work results when you get them. That may give us more insight.

 

[jko30]

Given the poor way you ran cycles, I would run PCT for 6 weeks.

Let's see you blood work results when you get them. That may give us more insight.

Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it very much. My dr went out of town today so now i have to wait till monday. I spoke to a pro bodybuilder at my gym who agreed to help me aswell. He suggested clomid and tamoxifien aswell for 4 weeks and if still nothing hcg to kick start everything again. Does this sound good? Sorry for all my posts etc. I know i made a huge mistake here but determined to fix this. Do you think it would be at all possible to return to normal functioning? I am worried sick

 

[jko30]

Does anyone have any similar recovery stories. Would basically like to know if possible to recover after a very long cycle and return to normal.

 

[polishpower13]

It's not only the fact that you ran a "very long cycle" as you call it but that you were completely shut down for the 4-6 weeks between your "cycles" and IF your test started to naturally rebound you knocked it over the head and started a new cycle. Where did you get your gear? idk how anyone can put chemicals into their body without doing at least a little research first. Specially with all the steroid "horror stories" in the media.

I hope for the best for you but me nor anyone else can say for sure if you'll be able to get back to "normal" levels without seeing what your at now. (knowing your "normal" levels pre-cycle would have helped a great deal as well). but the advice of Megatron is the best your going to get at this point.
Good luck.

 

[jko30]

It's not only the fact that you ran a "very long cycle" as you call it but that you were completely shut down for the 4-6 weeks between your "cycles" and IF your test started to naturally rebound you knocked it over the head and started a new cycle. Where did you get your gear? idk how anyone can put chemicals into their body without doing at least a little research first. Specially with all the steroid "horror stories" in the media.

I hope for the best for you but me nor anyone else can say for sure if you'll be able to get back to "normal" levels without seeing what your at now. (knowing your "normal" levels pre-cycle would have helped a great deal as well). but the advice of Megatron is the best your going to get at this point.
Good luck.

Thanks for the advice. Yes i know it was incredibly stupid of me and i really wish i could take it back but i cant. I just want to get better at this point. I am in 3rd week of pct now and still not 100% better but balls are slowly going back to normal size and can feel some of my sex drive coming back but everything still not functioning at 100% . Am seeing a doctor aswell and need to go back in 6 weeks again for tests. Any other advice will help. Would hcg boost this even faster?

 

[polishpower13]

Run your PCT for 6 weeks. clomid + nolva.
As far as my research goes HCG shouldn't be ran during your pct. it should be ran before. i'm not very experienced regarding HCG, however another user will be able to comment on this im sure. hopefully after running an extended PCT you'll level out and not feel like crap or develop any serious long-term issues.

 

[GynoPuff]

Does anyone have any similar recovery stories. Would basically like to know if possible to recover after a very long cycle and return to normal.

I did a 22 week cycle of test eth 500mg wk deca 600mg wk no pct and bouht nolva 10 weeks later and recovered fine my weiner worked about 90% as well as it use to after that tho but im ok with that

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hi All

I am writing this as I really would like some help. I started using steriods in november 2014. 2x dianabol daily and 700mg sustanon per week for about 6 weeks. Then went off for about 4 weeks with no pct. Didnt really feel any different. Then started the same again for 6 weeks, off for 4 weeks and did it again for 8 weeks after that. I have now been off for about 6 weeks and starting pct next week which will consist of proviron, clomid and tamoplex. I have no libido at the moment and feeling very anxious. I really hope this will get me back to normal as i dont ever want to do this again.

Will i ever recover from this? If there is anyone that can help me please message or comment. I am extremely worried that i wont go back to normal after this. Went to my dr and got blood test done which i will get back next few days. I really would appreciate some advice. Will i ever go back to normal?

1st) sust should be used 12-14 weeks, specilly due to slow esters, takes 4-6 weeks just to notice much and anything less than 10-12 weeks is a waste of a cycle and putting your body through a hormonal roller coaster for nothing IMO

2)its not always "how you feel" you go by blood work! you do a PCT because i assure you you ARE shut down regardless on "how you feel"

3rd) PROVIRON iS A STEROID and will cause shutdown, it will NOT help your PCT! but i do agree 4-5 weeks of clomid AND tamox is a good option, 50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed

4) I REALLY hope you did not tell doc about illegal off script use of steroids.... because you likely just messed yourself for future health and/or life insurance (should have just said it was a herbal supp you took to boost workout and dont feel right now and want to check everything)

not sure when or if you did anyresearch, but you need alot more before ever considering using these things again.
Did you even use an AI to control estrogen on cycle?

good luck man....

 

[juced_porkchop]

Run your PCT for 6 weeks. clomid + nolva.
As far as my research goes HCG shouldn't be ran during your pct. it should be ran before. i'm not very experienced regarding HCG, however another user will be able to comment on this im sure. hopefully after running an extended PCT you'll level out and not feel like crap or develop any serious long-term issues.

you are correct, DO NOT use HCG DURING pct... at end of cycle leading up to but not into PCT yes, or low doses during cycle yes, during pct NO it will cause more issues then help

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it very much. My dr went out of town today so now i have to wait till monday. I spoke to a pro bodybuilder at my gym who agreed to help me aswell. He suggested clomid and tamoxifien aswell for 4 weeks and if still nothing hcg to kick start everything again. Does this sound good? Sorry for all my posts etc. I know i made a huge mistake here but determined to fix this. Do you think it would be at all possible to return to normal functioning? I am worried sick

you could use HCG for a few weeks THEN do the PCT. maybe just try pct first, if anything then have a few weeks with HCG and another PCT.

 

[jko30]

1st) sust should be used 12-14 weeks, specilly due to slow esters, takes 4-6 weeks just to notice much and anything less than 10-12 weeks is a waste of a cycle and putting your body through a hormonal roller coaster for nothing IMO

2)its not always "how you feel" you go by blood work! you do a PCT because i assure you you ARE shut down regardless on "how you feel"

3rd) PROVIRON iS A STEROID and will cause shutdown, it will NOT help your PCT! but i do agree 4-5 weeks of clomid AND tamox is a good option, 50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed

4) I REALLY hope you did not tell doc about illegal off script use of steroids.... because you likely just messed yourself for future health and/or life insurance (should have just said it was a herbal supp you took to boost workout and dont feel right now and want to check everything)

not sure when or if you did anyresearch, but you need alot more before ever considering using these things again.
Did you even use an AI to control estrogen on cycle?

good luck man....

Thanks so much for advice. Yeah sticking to clomid and nolvadex for pct. My doc was cool. Everything off record. He has known me for years so very lucky about that. Have another 2 weeks or so to go. Its been brutal. Hope everything works again after that. If not will try hcg and another pct. But definately not doing another cycle anytime soon. Want to recover fully from this first. Thanks so much for the advice. I really appreciate it

 

[jko30]

Hi all. Just an update. Am in week 4 now of pct and started feeling a lot better. Everything seems to be returning to normal, get morning wood now again and sex drive seems to be coming back. Only thing is erections are weaker or do not last very long. Is this because of pct? Will this eventually also return to normal? Any advice or similar experiences would be helpful