Need opinions/advice on my first cycle

[tury694]

Ya no whining "oh i get sweaty at night" "ooh i cant sleep" "ooh i act like a bitch and yell at my girlfriend" "ayayay im getting so muscular all the bitches keep staring at me cuz they wanna fuck" lol if you want something bad enough you'll do what it takes and deal with certain things

It's a win win for us. If he gets good results we can say we guided him. If he comes back to complain we can start making fun of him.

 

[505jules]

Mr Hawk here is 35 years old is not a fat ass, Biggest problem wth tren is INSOMNIA sleep is one of the most important things we need in life. So you take away that then comes anxiety,, mood swings,, feeling like crap. High estrogen can cause similar effects. Estrogen he can control his test dose is super low, the sleep issue if he has it everyone goes through it,, it gets better with time. Also you need a strong mind with tren its definitely a mental thing,, it can mess with your head. But Hawk is 35 and im sure can handle it.

Id be more concern someone drinking heavy every weekend,, snorting cocaine or popping pills than taking tren and working out hard and eating like a bodybuilder. Who came up with thks tren is the devil talk? Have any of you tried staying on and getting passed the side effects? I know first time i tried it in my first cycle it was last 5 weeks of my 12 weeker test cycle. I had it in my brain how toxic it is and pretty much got placebo effect that i will never run it again.

Truth is i experiment with it,, call me what you want addict well we all are But its not as bad as everyone has made it out to be. Its a very good and important staple when you want to look like a bodybuilder. You dont have to like tren but no need to scare everyone. If your responsible and HEALTHY there is not alot to worry about.

THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY... I WILL NOW GO DO MY MORNING RITUAL SIT NAKED IN A CIRLE OF 10 CANDLES BECAUSE THERE IS 10 # IN TRENBOLONE.... AND I WILL POP OPEN A VIAL AND POOR TREN ON MY BODY AND PRAY

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[Nighthawk1979]

Yeah. After a little more research I think a dosage of 100mcg e3d is a lot safer

 

[Nighthawk1979]

Yeah. I definitely wont bitch. The side effects dont particularly scare me. As with most (or some) of us, I am SURE Ive dealt with issues much worse that the potential side effects of tren. I appreciate the warnings and advice to be responsible. Ill def be responsible. But everyone talking about tren as some kind of evil entity to stay away from I kinda feel like they were the ones who were whining and bitching when they tried it. I just wanted some advice and feedback...which I got from some of you. Thank you to those people. And ti those that laughed, mocked and offered nothing....FUCK EM

 

[Nighthawk1979]

Im not familiar with prami dosing. When and how often would I need to take it? Id still need it if Im gonna run 100mcg letro e3d? If I end up not being too sensitive to the tren I shouldn't need the prami, right?

 

[SJC]

I don't like Prami. I feelt like shit at .1ml E3D. I sleep like shit, then feel shitty for 2 days. Then start all over again 3 days later.

Caber on the other hand is IMO way better. 1/2 mg E3d is enough. Prami and caber though you don't have to take. You can use it it you notice high prolactin sides. Keep your E2 in check and you won't have to worry.

I do suggest to only use Test for your first cycle. The reason is so you know how to manage your AI. You don't know what dosing to take of your AI. Too much and your fucked. Too little and your fucked with TITTIES. It is somewhat smart running a low dose of Test to begin. I don't need an AI at 250mg a week but still pop 6.5mg of liquid stane E3D to keep me in the middle range. Without it I'm a little higher but still good.

Good luck with whatever you choose

 

[SoCalSwole]

Prami also has some pretty cool sexual side effects. But it is strong stuff and if you don't start out with very little and slowly work up it can cause flu like symptoms and anxiety well at least it does for me. You should start at like .10 and work your way up to the full dose.

I also agree you should wait to run tren after you have tried other stuff first mainly for the reason that you learn so much about how the body reacts and how to fix problems during the research of the other stuff. But if you respect it and learn as much as you can about it before hand you will be fine. I guess it's like body builders enjoy the journey the process so jumping straight to tren would be like if you were a kid and right after your first kiss you go straight to an Orgy with DP. It's like where do you go from there? Wheres the lessons learned from the experience?

 

[SoCalSwole]

I don't like Prami. I feelt like shit at .1ml E3D. I sleep like shit, then feel shitty for 2 days. Then start all over again 3 days later.

Caber on the other hand is IMO way better. 1/2 mg E3d is enough. Prami and caber though you don't have to take. You can use it it you notice high prolactin sides. Keep your E2 in check and you won't have to worry.

I do suggest to only use Test for your first cycle. The reason is so you know how to manage your AI. You don't know what dosing to take of your AI. Too much and your fucked. Too little and your fucked with TITTIES. It is somewhat smart running a low dose of Test to begin. I don't need an AI at 250mg a week but still pop 6.5mg of liquid stane E3D to keep me in the middle range. Without it I'm a little higher but still good.

Good luck with whatever you choose

I totally agree Caber is where it is at. Have not been able to find it lately. Could you point a brother in the right direction? PM me.