Need some advice

Spongy

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So as you all may know, I just signed on with Maximus to start Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for the first time. Im 26 years old, but have TT of 377 or so. I have talked with my fiance about this, but every time I bring it up she gets very upset about it. She's frustrated because she seems to think that I can change the levels on my own. I know to a certain extent we can cause our levels to change based on what we eat and activity level, but not to the extent that I will begin to feel "normal." Do any of you guys have an suggestions as to what I can do to try and explain this to her? I think she's freaked out by the fact that insurance doesn't cover it (mine anyways) and that it will be for life. Any advice is greatly appreciated. It's to the point where I almost want to get Chip on the phone and have him explain it to her.

I'm treading light bros, don't want to end up on the couch tonight :axe:
 
If possible, try and take her out of her defensive posture. At this point, she probably isn't hearing a word you are saying. Tell her you agree you should try it naturally and then research natural methods. Maybe in the course of researching natural methods together, you both may learn that it isn't really a good option.

My guess is you will not be able to get a sufficient lift in T levels through natural methods to feel improvement. If you could get her to "discover" that fact on her own the next step is a lot easier.

Is she willing to help you research natural methods? If she is, ask her to help you determine what kind of lift can be attained in T levels through a natural approach. Then do some research on what T levels generally lead to a response in men being treated. As an example, if an increase of 100-200 is possible through natural methods and you need to be at or above 800 to repsond to treatment, the natural method won't work, will it? Again, my numbers are just examples, but I hope you get my point.

A helluva salesman once told me "The best way to change someone's mind is to agree with them"

I'm telling you, take her off defense. If you think she may be willing to research some of this for you, do your own research first. Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to....

Go back in and tell her "you know baby, you're right, I would make sense to at least consider natural methods first, will you help me research them?

I absolutely gaurantee her whole body language will change right before your eyes. Just send her down the right path and it will end in self enlightenment.

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Has she ever been to an ob/gyn? I'm assuming yes. Has she ever been on the pill? Probably yes. Tell her that there is no reason in the world that she should ever have to go to an ob/gyn, and that there is no reason that she should ever have to be on the pill.....
Tell her that its all in her head and that she should be able to completely adjust all her female hormones on her own, just as she expects the same from you. See what she has to say about that....
 
haha Chip, Love it. She and I actually had a pretty in depth conversation about it. And I basically told her that I'm not feeling normal, and haven't for quite some time. TR, I'd done a lot of research prior to contacting Chip initially and after Chip and I first talked I told him I wanted to wait 6 months and try to do it naturally. I finally sat down with her last night and told her that I'd already talked to the Doc and he had approved my protocol and that I was going to "give it a 10 week trial." I then told her that if she didn't notice a remarkable improvement in that time span we would look, together, for other options. I know that it's going to take a bit of time to get dialed in, so some of it will be me just learning to bite my tongue and say "honey, I feel freakin' fantastic" but in the end it will all work out.

I totally hear you about the whole birth control thing, and that was the first thought that popped into my head when she starting fussing about HRT... I'm just trying to keep it civilized so I haven't played that card yet.

On a side note, I hope you're feeling better and having a smooth recovery Chip. Thank you for taking the time to talk with me so soon after your surgery, I had no idea you were out.
 
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