Need thoughts on Test(Prop)/Tren(Ace) Cycle & PCT

do the blasting during the 10 day break, during the T decline.

28 days after was enanthate.

Ok so the SERMs post cycle therapy (pct) starts after T levels are adequate but Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can and has to be used during the T level decline..

All clear now..!

i'll revise my plan and re-post..
 
Attached is a PDF file containing my revised cycle + post cycle therapy (pct) plan after getting feedback from THE-DET-OAK and Mr. Humdiddly (thanks both)..

Any comments/suggestions would be very much appreciated...

:afro:
 
... Please excuse my ignorance but I really don't know the answer to this Q..

Would it be more beneficial to pin Tren and Prop individually in different locations as opposed to mixing them and pinning them into one location? I feel that pinning in different locations will allow for a more effecient absorbtion per compound respectively (but that's just my guess)..

I'm also considering this because as I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that Tren can be injected using a slin-pin (27 to 29gauge) which will greatly reduce scar-tissue, plus I have very little fat on my quads and delts so if slin pins would work, those locations would be great. If not, I'll use a 23gauge 1.25" or 1.5' just like what I'm planning on using for the prop.

.. Not really bothered much by the annoyance of ED injections as much as I'm concerned with not having sufficient ED pinning locations as I only used to pin my glutes during my first cycle.. but that wasn't ED..
 
... Please excuse my ignorance but I really don't know the answer to this Q..

Would it be more beneficial to pin Tren and Prop individually in different locations as opposed to mixing them and pinning them into one location? I feel that pinning in different locations will allow for a more effecient absorbtion per compound respectively (but that's just my guess)..

I'm also considering this because as I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that Tren can be injected using a slin-pin (27 to 29gauge) which will greatly reduce scar-tissue, plus I have very little fat on my quads and delts so if slin pins would work, those locations would be great. If not, I'll use a 23gauge 1.25" or 1.5' just like what I'm planning on using for the prop.

.. Not really bothered much by the annoyance of ED injections as much as I'm concerned with not having sufficient ED pinning locations as I only used to pin my glutes during my first cycle.. but that wasn't ED..

you can pin the test and tren in dif locations if you want. if you're pinning in glutes or quads then don't bother but obviously for other smaller muscles you\ll need to do seperate injections since they can't handle as much. by the way, test prop and tren ace are my current cycle.

but you can shoot tren OR test with a slin pin..that's what i do when i pin anywhere other then quads or glutes. If you need help with other locations you can go to SpotInjections.com
but a quick list of what i use is right/left: delt, tri, bi's, pec, quads, glutes. that's 12 injections worth....and that's not inclluding other spots you may consider pinning but which i wouldn't recommend ie. traps, calves, lats. .... eyeballs. jk. just check that site out.
 
you can pin the test and tren in dif locations if you want. if you're pinning in glutes or quads then don't bother but obviously for other smaller muscles you\ll need to do seperate injections since they can't handle as much. by the way, test prop and tren ace are my current cycle.

but you can shoot tren OR test with a slin pin..that's what i do when i pin anywhere other then quads or glutes. If you need help with other locations you can go to SpotInjections.com
but a quick list of what i use is right/left: delt, tri, bi's, pec, quads, glutes. that's 12 injections worth....and that's not inclluding other spots you may consider pinning but which i wouldn't recommend ie. traps, calves, lats. .... eyeballs. jk. just check that site out.


lol, thanks!

I find it hard to imagine how prop could actually be pushed a slin pin. I'll be using 100mg/ml by Thaiger Pharma. Last cycle I used the 150mg/ml also by Thaiger Pharma and that felt to be thick enough not to pass through a slin-pin. What gauge slin pins do you use?
 
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ya it depends on the prop you use, i never do this but some say heating it up will make it pass through the pin alot easier. i jsut never bother. my slin pins are 29 gauge...so as you can imagine i'm sitting there for a solid 5 minutes . but i fucking HATE pinning, so when i'm running a short esthered item i try and mix up the slin pins and regular pins just so i stay sane.
 
ya it depends on the prop you use, i never do this but some say heating it up will make it pass through the pin alot easier. i jsut never bother. my slin pins are 29 gauge...so as you can imagine i'm sitting there for a solid 5 minutes . but i fucking HATE pinning, so when i'm running a short esthered item i try and mix up the slin pins and regular pins just so i stay sane.

.. I guess I can pretty much rest assured that since u slin pin ur prop using 29s then I wouldn't have a problem slin pinning my prop with 27s.. I'll shift to 23s when pinning glutes though.. Since my quads have very little fat I think I'll be able to slin pin those too
 
I have just purchased 26 gauge 1 inch (25mm) needles and 2ml syringle barrels. I was a bit skeptical about being able to push the oil through 27g or higher plus the short (1/2") needle seemed to not provide enough depth for certain locations for an IM injection as opposed to SubQ (Glutes for example).

I think the 26g/1inch would be a good balance between the two (slin pins and regular 22/23g 1"/1.5").. the fact that the needle is an inch and not 1/2" might make it harder to push the oil through.. In that case I'll be using a hair-dryer to heat the gear up while its in the syringe prior to injecting which should make pushing it through somewhat easier..

Wish me luck :)
 
Humdiddly + THE-DET-OAK:

Seems like it'll be hard for me to get my hands on Prami.. What are your thoguhts on substituting that with bromociptine and dosing it at 2.5mg's ED..?
 
dont know man ive never used any dopamine agonists. im sure te research chems sponsors here have it though, for your lab rats that is :)
 
I actually managed to find a source for prami (sifrol) but the tabs are dosed at 0.18mg each.. Guess I'll start with 1 tab a day and taper it up to a tab and a half and then taper it down to one tab about a week to ten days prior to the end of the cycle
 
If im using Sustanon (sust) for 16 weeks how long do i blast for. Do i blast for the 28 days or just the 2 weeks comming up to post cycle.
 
Attached is a PDF file containing my revised cycle + post cycle therapy (pct) plan after getting feedback from THE-DET-OAK and Mr. Humdiddly (thanks both)..

Any comments/suggestions would be very much appreciated...

:afro:

Excellent summary! This is by far the most useful post I've read so far considering the fact that all is put in the clean pdf format.

I realize that this is a two plus years post, but I was wondering how the cycle went for you in terms of results and effectiveness of the post cycle therapy (pct) and whether you would make any change to this?

Thanks a bunch!!
 
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