Need to build a cycle -comments

[Cheebaweebie]

Thinking of putting this together. Im a 40 y/o 185 (3rd cycle-last one 8 years ago) lean physique .... Looking for comments...

Sustanon 250 - week 1-10 2x / 500 mg pw split
Dbol oral (don't know mg) week 1-4 (free from a friend)
Masteron 100 weeks 4-10 eod
Arimidex liquid weeks 1-10, .25mg e3d adjusting as needed
Clomid at end of cycle ed / 300 mg d1, 100 mg d2-11, 50 mg d11-21
HCG 3 weeks post cycle 1500iu e4d for 2 or 3 weeks
Nolvadex pill (not sure how much to take and post or during)

Or this

Tren E 200 mg weeks 1-10 2x / 400 mg
Dbol oral weeks 1-4 (don't know mg)
Masteron 100 weeks 4-10 eod
Arimidex weeks 1-4, .25mg e3d or more often as needed
Clomid at end of cycle ed / 300 mg d1, 100 mg d2-11, 50 mg d11-21
HCG at end of cycle 1500iu e4d for 2 or 3 weeks
Nolvadex pill (not sure how much to take and post or during)



Thanks so much for the help.

 

[Rida5d]

What's ur history with aas? Looking at ur second cycle that has no test as a base, I'm wondering how u cycled b4..
Tell me u not suggesting running tren e without test

 

[Cheebaweebie]

First go around was omnadren 10 weeks 1 amp per. not much of a post cycle therapy (pct). 2nd was 4 months later stacked deca & enanthate 12 weeks no post cycle therapy (pct). was young and no proper research prior to pinning.

Was unsure about the tren. Could drop the sust down to 1 ml per week and stack with the tren E 1 ml per week (250+200 p/w for 10 weeks) still keeping the dbol / masteron 4/6 combo. This would also add the test along with the proper post cycle therapy (pct). Thoughts on that ?

This go around wanted to make sure to have the proper mix to keep levels consistent and good post cycle therapy (pct) to secure the gains. Could stand gaining some overall weight but want to keep bloat down and gain quality hard muscle.

So nogo on the 2nd example above w/o adding a test ?

Also could add a 3 week test (prop maybe) at the end of the cycle while the sust levels drop before pinning Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and full post cycle therapy (pct). on the examples incorporating the Sustanon (sust). thoughts ?