New cycle test cup/tren ace

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Hey everyone, just looking for some advice on a test cyp tren ace cycle. I've cycled before with test cyp and dbol really enjoyed the gains I got out of it. I'm looking for something a bit more of a lean bulk. I'm 24 about 175lbs and 11%bf count. Here is my cycle.

Test cyp week 1-16 @250mg/week (pinning twice a week)
Tren Ace week 3-13 @150mg/EOD
Ai week 3-16 adex or aromasin?
Pct 2 weeks after last pin
Clomid100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

A few questions I have about this cycle
1. Do I need a ai at this low dose of test? (Previous cycles I used adex)
2. I can no longer get adex from my supplier only aromasin read not to take it with similar cycles?
3. Obviously 2 totally different routes but what if I added dbol. Or going the leaner way added Winstrol?

 

[Old Duffer]

Questions, questions:
Why are you cycling at 24?
Do you have bloodwork done?
How tall are you?
Cycle history?
Got a handle on diet?

Let's start with these....

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

I've done 3 cycles
First cycle

Test cyp week 1-12 @500mg/week
Adex week 1-14 can't remember my dose on this

Pct
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Next two cycles were the same just front loaded with dbol week 1-4

First cycle was when I was 20, next 21 and 22
Haven't cycled for 2 years last cycle I got mild gyno due to missing ai for a weekend being at school. Got surgery done in January ready to cycle again
I'm about 5"11
No I haven't gotten blood work done
And yes I have a good diet
Been dieting alifting on and off since I was 15

 

[Old Duffer]

Thanx for actually hanging around and responding. Getting a lot of fly-by folks lately.

So, I'll skip the lecture about being too young and how you will screw yourself up as you already know that, having had Gyno surgery.

1) You NEED bloodwork. Before, mid-blast and after pct. how else will you know what's going on? By how you feel? Yeah, that don't work. It's cheap and it's easy. Get it.

2) no tren lectures either, except 150eod is a huge dose! Tren has sides. Big, hairy ones. Go easy on it.

3) tren needs caber (or some other prolactin control) on hand. You are gyno prone. Without it you may lactate! You can make good money on the porn circuit with this talent, but most folks would rather avoid it.

4) highly recommend HCG during blast to keep the chestnuts from withering away

5) don't add any other goodies to test/tren. Not yet. Ride the tren train solo. See if it likes you or hates you.

6) aromasin is fine. The only way to really know how much tho is with bloodwork!

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Okay thanks for the advice and info, as far as hcg I have researched it before but that was way back. I'll have to read up on that. And caber as well. I'll do a bit of research on it and boost back on improved cycle. And blood work how do you go about getting that done ?

 

[Old Duffer]

If in states, search private md labs. At a min, choose 'female hormone panel'. Pay online. Steers you to nearest draw station. No doctor involved. Emails you results plus mailed hard copy. Search discount code online. Just did mine. Cost about $50. Took just a couple days for results. Really easy.

Glad to hear you will research. Very smart. AAS is serious business. You must handle it as a responsible adult or you can really mess your yourself up. Really.

 

[Old Duffer]

If in states, search private md labs. At a min, choose 'female hormone panel'. Pay online. Steers you to nearest draw station. No doctor involved. Emails you results plus mailed hard copy. Search discount code online. Just did mine. Cost about $50. Took just a couple days for results. Really easy.

Glad to hear you will research. Very smart. AAS is serious business. You must handle it as a responsible adult or you can really mess your yourself up. Really.

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

I'm in Canada I'll look online and see what I can find for blood work. Only problem is that I'm in a rural area. Hopefully something close by

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Update*

With some more research done on various sites I've tweaked my cycle. Feel free to chime in on any options on it.

Cycle

Test Cyp Week 1-10 @250mg/week (pinning twice a week)
Tren ace Week 1-10 @100mg/EOD
Test cyp Week 10-16 @600mg/week (pinning twice a week)
Aromasin Week 1-18@10mg/ED
HCG Week 1-16 @500ius/week

PCT
Clomid. Week 18-22@ 100/100/50/50
Nolva. Week 18-22@ 40/40/20/20

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Bump

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

After doing more research again I've decided I'm going to add in the caber. From what I've read it seems .5mg of caber during the duration of my tren ace should be sufficient. Now my only problem is finding a reliable source to get it from. Where I order my gear doesn't carry it. :/

 

[Old Duffer]

Cycle looks ok to me. You can save yourself a few pins and needles by mixing the tren and test and do your eod pins. Caber highly recommended. Glad to see you doing more research and not rushing in. You'll get much better and safer results that way

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Thanks old duffer much appreciated on the advice

 

[blakey]

I've done 3 cycles
First cycle

Test cyp week 1-12 @500mg/week
Adex week 1-14 can't remember my dose on this

Pct
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Next two cycles were the same just front loaded with dbol week 1-4

First cycle was when I was 20, next 21 and 22
Haven't cycled for 2 years last cycle I got mild gyno due to missing ai for a weekend being at school. Got surgery done in January ready to cycle again
I'm about 5"11
No I haven't gotten blood work done
And yes I have a good diet
Been dieting alifting on and off since I was 15

You got gyno from missing 1 dose of adex? I dont think so bro
I usally dose it every 3 days at .5 so you were taking it daily???? Mmmmmmmmmm sounds off to me man

i forget to take dex all the time its only when im watching a kids movie with my young fella i start to choke up and get a little tear in my eye when something sad happens or i start getting a bit bitchy with the misses or if im getting tired/ fatigued i think to myself fuck when did i have adex last and run to the cupboard and dose up
but gyno after skipping one dose i dont think so not calling you a liar just think something else was going on there

 

[blakey]

And mild gyno doesn't warrant surgery thats a decent onset of gyno not mild

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

I was taking adex every other day. I was in college went home for the weekend forgot my adex and my nipples were puffy by Monday I quit my cycle started ordering all kinds of stuff I wasn't prepared for it as it was my third cycle basically the same as my last. My gyno wasn't hardly noticible but coming from small nipples to puffy ones and lumps underneath my nipples I decided I wanted surgery for my own satisfaction..

 

[oldmusclemike]

You got gyno from missing 1 dose of adex? I dont think so bro
I usally dose it every 3 days at .5 so you were taking it daily???? Mmmmmmmmmm sounds off to me man

i forget to take dex all the time its only when im watching a kids movie with my young fella i start to choke up and get a little tear in my eye when something sad happens or i start getting a bit bitchy with the misses or if im getting tired/ fatigued i think to myself fuck when did i have adex last and run to the cupboard and dose up
but gyno after skipping one dose i dont think so not calling you a liar just think something else was going on there

Blakey is spot on. You don't get Gyno from missing a dose 2 or three. But never the less if ya got it ya got it. The doctors really will not want to do this unless it is pretty bad, so I have been informed ?

There is a protocol for reducing some fatty tissue by using Ralox Try research on that.

 

[tbonexl]

Update*

With some more research done on various sites I've tweaked my cycle. Feel free to chime in on any options on it.

Cycle

Test Cyp Week 1-10 @250mg/week (pinning twice a week)
Tren ace Week 1-10 @100mg/EOD
Test cyp Week 10-16 @600mg/week (pinning twice a week)
Aromasin Week 1-18@10mg/ED
HCG Week 1-16 @500ius/week

PCT
Clomid. Week 18-22@ 100/100/50/50
Nolva. Week 18-22@ 40/40/20/20

Start pct 3 weeks after last pin. Run ai and hcg up to pct.

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Already had the full surgury done. and yeah second time I've heard the three weeks after pct I'll do that. And my surguron I had to pay 2grand requested it to be done didn't go through my family doctor

 

[oldmusclemike]

Already had the full surgury done. and yeah second time I've heard the three weeks after pct I'll do that. And my surguron I had to pay 2grand requested it to be done didn't go through my family doctor

Thanks for the input. So I guess they do it if you can pay ... Much like so many things in life.

Good luck