New guy needing help, 1st time on T

[watchmeworkout]

I am seeking advise from guys that have experience and real knowledge in this

I am 34, couldn't get my regular doc to even give me any rub on T gel. So i went to a "wellness clinic" they have a real doc there but as you know its a bit shady. They did physical and sent me for bloodwork. Bloodwork will be back in 70-10, testing cholesterol, T, growth hormone etc. They say if T #'s come back low they will supplement by injection up to 70% of max range. They say range is 300-1300 they say would out me around 1000. I had t tested 6 months ago at doc and was 530. So I would be getting double.

They are saying 18 week cycle with estrogen blockers then 6 weeks off with something to stimulate natural production again then I can do another cycle if i like. They say one injection per week is all thats needed. they say they have kits already made up and will overnight to me with instructions.

My question is if I am 500 how much T do i do a week to get to 1000? I just want to check behind them on everything because i dont trust them, they are also the pharmacy and make money selling stuff, so just concerned they will try to bump me too high, hooking me on huge gains to get me to keep coming back for more cycles.

1000 level is ok with me, I am not trying to get crazy big, just fitness body and ripped. I work out 5 days a week, strict diet, 6 meals a day, 1800 calories a day, like a cut diet. I want to be at least 12% bodyfat by jan 28th. I dont want to do damage to my body so no desire to go over normal levels. Just a little help. more motivation in gym knowing I have a little extra help with T

Also depending on what levels are they may also give me GHG



A little on me:
I am 34, used to work out years ago and was in great shape and got out of it. I am 5'7" got up to 250 pounds. Down to 195 now. Been working out heavy past 15 weeks. Need to get off about 22 more pounds of fat. I think T will help.

 

[O]

Test levels of 530 is not low, so I can see why your doctor wouldn't prescribe you anything. What exactly are you trying to do here? Are you looking to go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) here or doing a cycle? Aiming for 1000 test is too low for a real cycle, you are gonna shut down your natural test for very minimal benefits in gains. You would be better off doing a real cycle of test 500mg/wk with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and proper PCT in my opinion.

 

[watchmeworkout]

what is Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT?
500mg a week what would that bost my test to?
as far as minimal gains, my guess is 1000, doubling my T would put me back at 21 year old levels, this was a hell of a lot easier at 21 i remember and fat just fell off me. I am perfectly ok with that. Im not looking to do competition or me so massive huge. just not my thing. I have a natural nice build and if i only put on 3-4 pounds of muscle during a cycle I would be happy. Not interested in in super high T level messing up my liver long term or cardiac issues.

So one low cycyle would mess up my own T production forever?

 

[O]

How long are you planning to do this for though? Yes one cycle will mess up your natural test production. Once you start injecting test your body will stop producing it because it doesn't need to anymore. Your body will recover and start producing test again but it could take months, meaning you would be at a lower test level then you are now which would just cause you to lose the little gains yous see from bumping your test to 1000. There are ways to speed up the recovery after a cycle (PCT, Post-Cycle Therapy) and get your body producing natural test again faster.

An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks the conversion of testosterone to estrogen to prevent getting gyno. You wouldn't have to use this if you are doing such a low dose of test though.

It doesn't sound like steroids are the right path for you to take though since you seem to just want to lose fat. Diet is going to be the key thing to do that, not steroids.

 

[watchmeworkout]

ok, yes they plan to do PCT and estrogen blocker

May not be right path then, Plus they want to much for a cycle, I heard T is cheap and they want $1100 for 18 week cycle. i can afford it but overpaying for anything bothers me.

i would do a good cycle but have real concerns with ball shrinking, fucking up liver etc.

Will see what my HGH leveal come back as, maybe I can get on that at moderate levels and be better option.

 

[O]

Wow, yes that sounds way too expensive. You would be better off going through a ugl and just doing a real cycle, you are gonna see way better results and it will be much cheaper. If you do decide to go this route, make sure you do your research on how to do a proper cycle. There is a lot of info on this site about everything you need.

You wouldn't have to worry much about ball shrinking and liver problems if you are going to do just a simple test cycle. I have no experience with HGH but I know that it does need to be run for a long time to see results and it is also pretty expensive.

 

[watchmeworkout]

Thanks for all info, what should i be paying for test?

 

[O]

Thanks for all info, what should i be paying for test?

I don't think its allowed to talk about prices on here.