What's going on guys. I'm a newbie here and am doing my first cycle. First I am a smaller guy 5ft7 and roughly 145lbs. I'm not completely sure about how many calories I'm taking in but I eat constantly mainly lean chicken, tuna, protein shakes, almonds, pb and js and milk. I'm working out pretty hard 4 days a week. I am on my fourth shot of Test Enth using 250mgs a weeks. I know most people say to take more but the side effects are a concern for me especially post cycle therapy (pct) and I really only want to gain about 15lbs of lean mass. How long does this stuff take to kick and for me to gain weight? I'll take my 5th shot thursday and have gained maybe 2lbs. I believe it's legit because my sex drive has shot up my cocks even gotten bigger. Should I go ahead and bump it up to about 400mgs a week? On a side note...I'm about to get 25 50mg dbols so should I start taking them now or wait until next cycle. If so how should I incorporate them into my current cycle? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks alot guys!
Newbie here with a Test Enth question.
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capospo
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LOL, you are asking this guy about post cycle therapy (pct) and he weighs 145 lbs? You are far from ready for a cycle bro and I'm not saying that to be a smart ass. You weigh 145 lbs dude. You can easily pack on more weight with just diet and training before needing to add gear. IMO you'd just be wasting your money because without food, it don't matter how much gear you do, you'll be the same weight with the exception of maybe a little water weight. I say your first order of business is to get your caloric intake and training in order.
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capospo
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LOL, you guys crack me up. You all just start spouting off advice before getting stats on this guy. This guy even puts in his thread that he's 5'7" and 145 lbs and you still give him cycle advice. Amazing... I'm baffled.
Thanks for the advice guys but no really answered my main question. How long does the enth take to where it's in full effect. I'm 27 years old and can literally eat all day long without gaining any weight. I've worked out on and off over the past 8 years and only gained about 6 pounds at the most when working out hard for about 7 months straight with strict dieting, taking celltech creating, and nitrotech whey. On top of that adding an additional 1200 calories daily with GNC's MegaMass weightgainer. It's just gotten frustrating ha ha. The damn supplements can cost more than the juice. As far as post cycle therapy (pct) I've got Nolvadex and plan on ordering unleashed and post cycle if needed. Please keep the responses coming.
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capospo
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Dude, if you can't gain any weight by eating then gear isn't gonna magically make you gain any weight. I seriously think you can reach a higher peak than 145 lbs for your height. I really think you'd be wasting your money on gear at this point if you can't gain anymore weight naturally.
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snowball
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he doesnt want to hear that shit, hes on already so you know he didnt listen to his mother, he made his mind up and hes on , so hear it goes get a weight gainer like the new iso mass extream by ultimate nutrition do 3 a day lift heavy , dont do rec drugs , do the dball with the test drink plenty of water, tell us how it goes in a month
Yeah I already have everything so i might as well take them. I got 70 of the 10mg pink octagons. any suggestions on how to use it. I'm about to take my fifth shot of test wednesday. I was thinking 10mgs daily for the first 2 weeks and 20 mgs daily for 2 weeks and dropping back down to 10 the remainder. should I take them 7 days a week or on training days only? Thanks again guys.
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capospo
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I'd be extremely surprised if you get anything out of this cycle bro. You need to do some research and do it right next time. You aren't gonna magically gain weight because you are taking gear. If all you weigh is 145 lbs, you've got diet and training issues that need worked out. I have nothing else to add. You are obviously hell bent on thinking a cycle is gonna get you to where you want. All I'm saying is to be prepared to be disappointed unless you make some changes in your diet.
strictaddict
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when you add the dbol you should have armidex and nolva ready just in case of gyno. food is always better then weight gainer shakes. LOL you take them 7 days a week. and throughout the day, but i guess since you only taking 10 mg just once a day. If you aint shitting at least 2 times a day, then you can def eat more.
juced_porkchop
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omg this is fukin stupid but hear i go:
im 5 '7 and i used to wegh 155lbs and had a gut. now im 178lbs and NO gut.
u need to eat more. i ate even when i wasnt hungry even almost puked a few times!. and i did this for 2 years. and if it isnt your diet its your training. i work out 3 days a week not in a row about every other day and i ONLY work out 1-2 muscles a day and i do this heavy for 30-90mins! eg chest tricept/bicep forarm/shoulders lats.
dont work out every day always leave a day inbetween to recover cuzz you dont grow when your working out!! you grow well you resting after you put the work in.
eat more about 4000cal
and your a stupid fuk for running test thinking it will automaticly make you grow. dbol can have alot of sides like test. 10mg ed WONT do SHIT. 20-40mg can.
if you gain anythigng with out changing anything that your doing now it will only be water and will go away.
atleast u had the balls to pin thow i give you that.
im 5 '7 and i used to wegh 155lbs and had a gut. now im 178lbs and NO gut.
u need to eat more. i ate even when i wasnt hungry even almost puked a few times!. and i did this for 2 years. and if it isnt your diet its your training. i work out 3 days a week not in a row about every other day and i ONLY work out 1-2 muscles a day and i do this heavy for 30-90mins! eg chest tricept/bicep forarm/shoulders lats.
dont work out every day always leave a day inbetween to recover cuzz you dont grow when your working out!! you grow well you resting after you put the work in.
eat more about 4000cal
and your a stupid fuk for running test thinking it will automaticly make you grow. dbol can have alot of sides like test. 10mg ed WONT do SHIT. 20-40mg can.
if you gain anythigng with out changing anything that your doing now it will only be water and will go away.
atleast u had the balls to pin thow i give you that.
I would not sit so high and mightily on the soap box dude. Some people want to do Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) no matter what you tell then regardless of their stats. Were you truly in peak shape before you started? All of the genetic peak shit is a bunch of hypocritical BS. If you are doing Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) no matter what your shape then the majority of people would call you an idiot for risking your health for no good reason other than to just get bigger.
DrDavidBanner
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I have a friend that is built about like you. He did his first cycle with straight Test and had decent gains. After his cycle he kept about 10 Lbs lean mass. You've increased your calories, your on cycle, now just make sure you push yourself a little harder in the gym. I personally haven't tried D-Bol but most I know use it as a boost until their cycle kicks in. If you do alot of cardio cut that back while your bulking (save the calories for muscle growth). Don't you just hate it when you ask for advice on something and someone feels the need to put their unconstructive two cents in.
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capospo
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That's fine bud. If you really think by telling someone to go ahead and just cycle without getting their diet or training in order first is a good idea, that's your perogative. Anyone with half a brain knows that taking Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) doesn't magically put weight on you. This has nothing to do with me sitting on my soapbox and thinking I'm high and mighty, it's common sense. Someone 5'7" and 145 lbs is just wasting their money unless they make some other changes in their training and lifestyle. It doesn't matter whether you agree or not because my point is valid and doesn't need you or anyone else to validate it. Common sense validates itself.
It is really hard to use a word like common sense when you are talking about Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use. You do not have to use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) at all to build muscle. If you step outside the protection of this website most people would call you crazy for using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) period. Point is, there is not much difference between the both of you. You just rationalize your use by saying: “I have reached my genetic limit, so I have to pump myself full of steroids” yea – that makes sense.
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capospo
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LMAO, you have no clue. Why are you even here if you think steroids don't help build muscle? Most people don't have a clue which is why they would say this or that. You should stop and listen to yourself because you haven't made any sense whatsoever. Myself and nobody else rationalizes our use. It's a proven fact that steroids work and not just something I or anyone else rationalizes. It's also proven that if you don't eat, you don't grow, END OF SENTENCE.
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capospo
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omg this is fukin stupid but hear i go:
im 5 '7 and i used to wegh 155lbs and had a gut. now im 178lbs and NO gut.
u need to eat more. i ate even when i wasnt hungry even almost puked a few times!. and i did this for 2 years. and if it isnt your diet its your training. i work out 3 days a week not in a row about every other day and i ONLY work out 1-2 muscles a day and i do this heavy for 30-90mins! eg chest tricept/bicep forarm/shoulders lats.
dont work out every day always leave a day inbetween to recover cuzz you dont grow when your working out!! you grow well you resting after you put the work in.
eat more about 4000cal
and your a stupid fuk for running test thinking it will automaticly make you grow. dbol can have alot of sides like test. 10mg ed WONT do SHIT. 20-40mg can.
if you gain anythigng with out changing anything that your doing now it will only be water and will go away.
atleast u had the balls to pin thow i give you that.
Good post porkchop. At least you make sense
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Ok well thanks for the advice even the criticisim cause it motivated me. I'm already in the 4th week so the deed is done. As for the eating I eat all day as I stated above. I had about 3500 calories yesterday with about 195 grams of protein but I will try to bump that up. I weighed today and actually have gained 5lbs since friday...might be cause I haven't shit since yesterday morning. I've got the nolvadex on hand in case I have any issues.
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capospo
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If you are hell bent on running this cycle which it seems like you are, you should be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as well while you are on.
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