Newbie needs advice ASAP

Turkey_535i

Turkey_535i

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So I have some questions that have probably been asked a million times so please bare with me. I'm 30 years old and 6'3 and weigh about 235 lbs. I played a lot of sports in high school, football/basketball and was very active. I just started working out again about two years ago, 5 days a week M-F and take Sat/Sun off to rest. Anyways a few of my workout buddies at the gym have recently within the past few months admitted to me that they juice, I've never touched the stuff in my life. After talking to one of my really close friends and confiding in him that I was thinking about trying a cycle, he recommended that I do a cycle of Dianabol. I talked to the guy he gets it from and the guy told me that I should do a cycle of Test E with the Dbol. I went back and talked to the first friend again and he was worried that the combination of the two might be a bit much to do for my first cycle and recommended I just stick with the Dbol alone for my first cycle. I know opinions and advices are a dime a dozen and everyone has a different opinion, but what do you guys think? Should I play it safe and only do the Dbol cycle followed by a PCT, or do both the Dbol and Test E my first run at it. The guy is getting me the Dbol in the next few days so gotta figure out what I'm gonna do in a hurry. Feel free to throw in any positive comments that are helpful, and any useless garbage that isn't helpful...there's always a few of those guys out there.

For anyone that supports the fact that I should do the Dbol cycle or the combo, any advice on how many mgs of one or the other I should do would be helpful also. I'm gonna be looking up this information on my own as well, Thanks!
 
No dbol Test only for first cycle. everyone knows this. Except for your 2 knuckle head friends.
 
The answers are all here, you just have to read. Why the rush? Just cuz you have it doesnt mean you have to start the day you get it. Slow down and research before you jump into a cycle. Ten minutes of reading some of the vets posts and youll be miles ahead your buddies. Good luck bro
 
There are so many threads posted every day about dbol only cycles and anavar only cycles.. its crazy! U would be better off running the dbol with the test other than by itself. Most beginner cycles are just test e. U owe it to yourself to not be a dumbass like your buddys and really learn about this stuff. You got your diet which is very, very important. If u don't have your diet in check, you'll be wasting a lot of time and money. Your not going to blow up like a freak your first time around. U cant just throw some dbol back on your way to the gym and see instant results. There is side effects that can occur with misuse of aas. I hope u educate yourself properly before taking anything. U could be swinging a limp dick around for the rest of your life if u don't...
 
So far it seems the consensus from most people is to avoid Dbol on my first cycle and just do a cycle of Test E? Can someone direct me to a good post talking about the dosages I should take, how often, and for how long? Thanks!
 
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test an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) is all you need for first cycle. Like others have said the information is here just need to do the work and find it very easy just read the stickies. If people sound rude its because the same question gets asked ten times a day. There is endless information here
 
Your dealer actually gave you some decent advice and you really need to punch your friend in the face for recommending an oral only cycle to you. I recommend you doing a 12 week Test E only cycle @500mgs/week, sell the D-Bol or save it for your second cycle. You'll also need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a post cycle therapy (pct) plan. Read up on the plethora of knowledge on this site and you'll be gtg...
 
I've known people who did oral only cycles for the simple fact they couldn't man up and pin, and was also fed bogus info. Yes they did get gains, but nothing fabulous. It's a waste of time and money IMO and anyone who does research about AAS would agree. Your first cycle is up to you ultimately. A lot if people will recommend test only to see how your body will react to it and no need to go crazy for your first cycle. However I've seen people go balls to the wall for the first cycle and they turned out just fine. Test and d Bol for a first cycle isn't anything crazy. Dbol only for a first cycle is just a waste of money. The reason people d Bol with test is to "kick start" their cycle. You can just be patient or front load the test to speed things up a bit. Again, it's ultimately up to you. I would recommend test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and have a good post cycle therapy (pct) planned out. Also your going to want an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand before your first pin.
 
Read up on AI's and post cycle therapy (pct). Dont start your cycle until you have everything on hand. Seriously. I learned the hard way
 
400-500 mg test Cypio or enanthate per week, minimum 12-14 weeks, thats all you need.
To prevent yourself from Estrogen go too high among cycle , you should add some Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Aromasin , Arimidex are good
Arimidex dose 0,5 mg every other day
Aromasin dose : 12,5 mg ED or 25 mg EOD
A standart post cycle therapy (pct) can be like :
HCG ( Human Chroinic Gonadotropin also know as Pregnyl) 1000 ui EOD prior 2 weeks of quiting steroids.
After Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) Nolvadex 40 mg everyday for 4 weeks with clomid 100 mg Everyday.
So beginner cycle is like:
test enanthate 500 mg per week, 14 weeks
HCG 1000 ui EOD weeks 15 and 16
Start Nolvadex and clomid at weeks 17 and continue for 4 weeks
 
Man the guys in this thread really over complicate things.. You can do test and dbol for a first cycle no problems.. I would do this

Test e 750mg/wk week 1-???
however much dbol you want week 1-5 (50mg is average)

I would get aromasin just in case you are prone to estrogen side effects. Running nolva throughout the cycle will also help to prevent gyno because it works at the breast tissue..

There is no need to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) really.. If you're just doing a short cycle like 15 weeks you will be fine
 
Ligand said:
Man the guys in this thread really over complicate things.. You can do test and dbol for a first cycle no problems.. I would do this

Test e 750mg/wk week 1-???
however much dbol you want week 1-5 (50mg is average)

I would get aromasin just in case you are prone to estrogen side effects. Running nolva throughout the cycle will also help to prevent gyno because it works at the breast tissue..

There is no need to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) really.. If you're just doing a short cycle like 15 weeks you will be fine
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Your a genius, too bad I didn't get advice from you before I started my first cycle. I would have had way more gains!...
 
Rida5d said:
Wtf??
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That guy is F'ing weird and jsut wants to be on every post.. Whats up with the workout plan?? 5 days straight is no good. 3 on 1 on 2 on 1 off.. Let your body rest so it can grow. Your not going to get big as hell thinking always better is more. You get the most growth on your off days, not burning up all the calories you need to grow or putting your body in a catabolic state.
 
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