newbie post cycle therapy (pct) questions

[SneakyTodd]

newbie PCT questions

I started at 160 lbs

I got a doctor prescription, and went on Deca and then Test (deca first to lower my testosterone to where insurance would cover the test). But my cycle lasted a little bit longer than it probably should have.

100mg Deca
150mg Test

for a ~6 months (I went off Deca for a couple of months in the middle, though)

[NB: Yes, it is a very light cycle - and yet I've been getting *many* complements that "Wow, you've really been working out!" - I work in public, and would prefer people I see on a regular basis to not immediately assume I'm using gear]

Now that it is well past time to cycle off, he is giving me a prescription for HCG (which is currently in my refrigerator - 10 days of 2000 cc's/day), and believes it is all I need to recover. To be safe, I'm getting some Clomid sent to me from a friend of a friend.

I wanted to make sure that my understanding of when to use them is correct:

My last Deca shot was almost 2 weeks ago
My last Test shot was almost 1 week ago

I'm assuming within the next couple of days, I should start with the HCG for 10 days, wait a week, and then start the Clomid?

Should I wait longer than before starting the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? Should I wait longer before starting the Clomid?

Thank you guys, I appreciate any advice you might have

(And, next time I plan on trying to find some HCG to use lower doses in the middle of my cycle instead of at the end, and also to use larger doses of Test and Deca)

 

[Strong Man]

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[Docd187]

I started at 160 lbs

I got a doctor prescription, and went on Deca and then Test (deca first to lower my testosterone to where insurance would cover the test). But my cycle lasted a little bit longer than it probably should have.

100mg Deca
150mg Test

for a ~6 months (I went off Deca for a couple of months in the middle, though)

[NB: Yes, it is a very light cycle - and yet I've been getting *many* complements that "Wow, you've really been working out!" - I work in public, and would prefer people I see on a regular basis to not immediately assume I'm using gear]

Now that it is well past time to cycle off, he is giving me a prescription for HCG (which is currently in my refrigerator - 10 days of 2000 cc's/day), and believes it is all I need to recover. To be safe, I'm getting some Clomid sent to me from a friend of a friend.

I wanted to make sure that my understanding of when to use them is correct:

My last Deca shot was almost 2 weeks ago
My last Test shot was almost 1 week ago

I'm assuming within the next couple of days, I should start with the HCG for 10 days, wait a week, and then start the Clomid?

Should I wait longer than before starting the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? Should I wait longer before starting the Clomid?

Thank you guys, I appreciate any advice you might have

(And, next time I plan on trying to find some HCG to use lower doses in the middle of my cycle instead of at the end, and also to use larger doses of Test and Deca)

So basically you're admitting to insurance fraud on an open forum and are part of the reason why my insurance premiums and deductibles are so high? I can see how you got your username.

 

[Robinator]

yea basically he just told every that he manipulated the health care system to get roids legally

 

[Docd187]

yea basically he just told every that he manipulated the health care system to get roids legally

And we basically paid his fucking way too!

 

[Robinator]

dude, how much did you pay for that? 40 dollars per deca amp?

 

[SneakyTodd]

dude, how much did you pay for that? 40 dollars per deca amp?

Are we really going to turn this into a debate about health care reform? Somehow I doubt too many people on here are free of breaking any laws to obtain their gear (since, you know, it's illegal to possess). Perhaps I broke a different law than you to get my gear - I would rather obtain my stuff from a pharmacy when at all possibly, where I can have a better assurance that I'm getting good stuff.

Insurance doesn't cover Deca, there is a reasonable medical explanation for why I would need it, but not a strong enough one for insurance to cover it. Since I'm on it, though, there *is* a medical reason for me to need Testosterone. I have to pay full price for the Deca.

I don't think it's really insurance fraud, but even if it is, the upward pressure I cause on insurance prices is nothing compared to the lack of any real downward pressure for medical costs in general.

And it is also completely unrelated to my general question. If I agree to pay full price for Test from the pharmacy (or from a friend of a friend) in the future, will you tell me if I'm on the right track for PCT?

(And sorry, I know I talk too much)

 

[Robinator]

Idk basically take 50mg of clomid for your post cycle therapy (pct) each day. I'll have any senior member correct me if i'm wrong

 

[KingBF]

if you want to use the hcg, wait 7 days after last test pin and start using it at 500iu every day for ten days, then wait 4 days and begin clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks. next time stop your deca at least two weeks before you end your test. some would argue 3 weeks, deca takes forever to clear your system. During your Blast phase of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) watch for your testes to drop and go back to normal. if they haven't went back to normal by the 10th day you need to keep using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) until they do. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is best used during cycle at 250 iu 2x a wk, not blasting it all at the end but you can do what you want. If you were running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) keep doing so until you start post cycle therapy (pct) or you can run it all the way through. I stop before post cycle therapy (pct). If you weren't running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) then next time don't be retarded and run it from the start