Nolvadex vs Arimidex during the cycle

[djdigy]

Hi guys i've just started my cycle

10 weeks test enanthate only cycle

Guys i was researching about nolvadex vs arimidex (to use if i get gyno symptoms) but i a little confused.

Here is the difference

Anastrozole (arimidex) is reportedly a more effective drug in combating estrogen-related concerns. This is because as an aromatase inhibitor it blocks the aromatase enzyme, thereby preventing the production of estrogen. Nolvadex, on the other hand, only hinders the action and not the production of this hormone.

Estrogen and its effects (particularly water and fat retention) are absolutely detrimental to bodybuilding. Remember that this hormone is also responsible for muscle strength and gains. Consequently, it minimizes the occurrence of injury as it improves the ability of muscle fibers to withstand contractile tension or stress. Notice that one of the side effects of Anastrozole use (as mentioned below) is the likely occurrence of fractures, a major drawback of this drug


Should i use nolvadex or arimidex during my cycle now? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Like everyday 20mg nolvadex or 0.25 mg arimidex?

 

[KingBF]

test e dosage per week? age? weight? years trained? diet? start with adex .25mg eod. some say to start at .5mg but evan that dries me out. dont use nolva during cycle, its for pct.

 

[djdigy]

test e dosage per week? age? weight? years trained? diet? start with adex .25mg eod. some say to start at .5mg but evan that dries me out. dont use nolva during cycle, its for pct.

I'm 1.80 cm , 77kg, age 31, arms 41 cm and into bodybuilding for 8 years now. This will be my first cycle.

my cycle:

Week 1 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 2 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 3 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 4 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 5 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 6 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 7 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 8 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 9 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 10 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml

 

[Metalhead]

Yes arimidex .25ed or .5eod. Just have to find your sweet spot. Arimidex controls your estrogen, and if taken right, keeps it at bay, withiut lettig it get too high. So ed or eod would be the way to go. Nolva needs to be on hand and taken only when you start to have signs of gyno. Also, during pct

 

[Metalhead]

I'm 1.80 cm , 77kg, age 31, arms 41 cm and into bodybuilding for 8 years now. This will be my first cycle.

my cycle:

Week 1 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 2 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 3 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 4 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 5 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 6 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 7 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 8 Testosteron Enanthate 500 ml
Week 9 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml
Week 10 Testosteron Enanthate 250 ml

It would be best to keep your doses consistent at 500mg every week.

 

[KingBF]

you have trained for 8 years and wiegh 169lbs. you need to get your diet into check

 

[djdigy]

Yes arimidex .25ed or .5eod. Just have to find your sweet spot. Arimidex controls your estrogen, and if taken right, keeps it at bay, withiut lettig it get too high. So ed or eod would be the way to go. Nolva needs to be on hand and taken only when you start to have signs of gyno. Also, during pct

So arimidex doesn't stop gyno? and if i get gyno symptoms, should i stop arimidex and start to take nolvadex or take both?

Some say don't take nolvadex during cyle, some say take arimidex 0.25 eod , if arimidex controls estrogen why there is a chance for gyno to occur?

Sorry if i'm asking stupid questions but i want to understand well their functions and when to use them.

 

[Rodstar]

It would be best to keep your doses consistent at 500mg every week.

Correct.. No need for tapering

 

[Metalhead]

So arimidex doesn't stop gyno? and if i get gyno symptoms, should i stop arimidex and start to take nolvadex or take both?

Some say don't take nolvadex during cyle, some say take arimidex 0.25 eod , if arimidex controls estrogen why there is a chance for gyno to occur?

Sorry if i'm asking stupid questions but i want to understand well their functions and when to use them.

Arimidex prevents test from aromatizing Into estrogen. Higher bf% is bad as more testcan convert into estrogen, which can lead to unwanted sides and sometimes gyno. If gyno starts to show, itchy nipples, sensitive nipples, or lumps then you will need to take arimidex along with nolva to help get rid of it. You can either go nolva or letro for gyno treatment. If you go with letro, be careful as it is stronger and can crash your estrogen

 

[Bobbyc818]

I use .5 dex rod works for me.

 

[gwalia]

so guys? u mean to sa we shud take ARIMIDEX for 4 weeks at .025mg and nolva for PCT 1st 2 weeks 40mg n next 2 weeks 20mgs and if something gyno issue comes up on the cycle , take nolva with arimidex ? till PCT cyle finsh??

 

[PrinceDianabol]

so guys? u mean to sa we shud take ARIMIDEX for 4 weeks at .025mg and nolva for PCT 1st 2 weeks 40mg n next 2 weeks 20mgs and if something gyno issue comes up on the cycle , take nolva with arimidex ? till PCT cyle finsh??

You should be using an AI (arimidex) throughout your entire cycle from week 1 til PCT. You do this to MANAGE estrogen and keep it in healthy levels, not too high and not too low.

If you fail to control your estrogen and let it get too high, its possible you could start developing gyno. In that case you need to increase your dose of arimidex slightly as its clear your estrogens too high. But you should use Raloxifen to actually treat the gyno. Dose at 60mg daily first two weeks, then 40mg daily until it's gone. Nolvadex will work aswell.. but Raloxifen is superior. Nothing binds to the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue better than Ralox.

You should know all this long before you start a cycle... that and as someone mentioned above your first three weeks are basically a waste. There is no need to taper up or down. Run 500mg weekly throughout.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

I'm just copying and pasting this is one of my posts from a similar thread.. So ignore the bits that dont apply to you coz im talking to the other guy. But this should clear things up:


Gyno is caused by excess estrogen (e2 in particular) reaching the breast tissue... you probably know estrogen floats around your blood stream. As the blood flows through, the estrogen will bind to the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue. Now there are two ways to stop estrogen from reaching those receptors...

option a) This is what your doing. By eliminating ALL the estrogen in your blood stream you are preventing any estrogen from reaching the receptors. This is why using an AI like letro or arimidex will reverse gyno... because you are starving the breast tissue of estrogen which it needs to grow. However, having low or no estrogen is very unhealthy.. and can produce a whole bunch of side effects like lethargy, erectile dysfunction, aching and dry joints.. the list goes on and on.

OR option b) Using a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator.) Selective meaning it "selects" or goes after the receptors in the breast tissue and the Pituitary rather than other ERs around the body. SERMs like Clomid, Tamoxifen (nolva) and Raloxifen all do the same thing with minor differences between them. Nolva and Ralox both have a higher affinity for the receptors in the breast tissue rather than the Pituitary. Clomid and torem on the other hand, have a higher affinity for the pituitary and less so for the breast tissue.
SERMs bind to these receptors and block estrogen from binding to it. Thereby starving the breast tissue of estrogen... leading to gyno reversal. And it does this without tanking your e2, as it is still free to float around the body.


This is why you see people recommend using an AI (like letro, arimidex or aromasin) to MANAGE estrogen. Use them to keep estro within healthy ranges.. not too high and not too low. Both of these produce bad side effects and are quite unhealthy for long periods. If you have gyno then your estro is probably too high... so use a very small dose if off cycle to lower it slightly FOR HEALTH REASONS and rely on the SERMs to reverse your gyno.

It's much healthier... And you won't lose gains, feel like shit, etc... Also any side effects you get from tanking your estro will last a while... sometimes it can take a fair while for your estro to recover.

Does that make more sense to you now? If you have any questions feel free to ask..,

 

[rratvai]

Tamoxifen or proviron?

Hi guys.

I started my first ever cycle on the 16th March With 250mg enantate/week for 12 weeks.
I'm eating every time I hungry hitting the gym as well but not gaining any weight. Strangely I'm on the same weight as I was on the beginning, however I got more detailed in muscle.
I'm thinking to use 250mg boldenon/week with the 250mg enantate and also take Dbol 25/30mg every day.

My question is:

By knowing that I already had nearly half of my cycle, how could I make it more efficient by using the steroids above? What dosage for how long do you recommend? What do I need for the pct after taking these steroids?

I'm taking tamoxifen from the 1st April, just for extra security however I haven't got any sign of gyno. Do I still need to carry on with it or leave it?
Should I change it for proviron?

This whole thing might sound a bit crazy for some of you. I read lots of things about steroids and now got a bit mixed up.

I just need some guidance please help.

Thanks, Roland

 

[Roush]

Hi guys.

I started my first ever cycle on the 16th March With 250mg enantate/week for 12 weeks.
I'm eating every time I hungry hitting the gym as well but not gaining any weight. Strangely I'm on the same weight as I was on the beginning, however I got more detailed in muscle.
I'm thinking to use 250mg boldenon/week with the 250mg enantate and also take Dbol 25/30mg every day.

My question is:

By knowing that I already had nearly half of my cycle, how could I make it more efficient by using the steroids above? What dosage for how long do you recommend? What do I need for the pct after taking these steroids?

I'm taking tamoxifen from the 1st April, just for extra security however I haven't got any sign of gyno. Do I still need to carry on with it or leave it?
Should I change it for proviron?

This whole thing might sound a bit crazy for some of you. I read lots of things about steroids and now got a bit mixed up.

I just need some guidance please help.

Thanks, Roland

250 mg of test a week is basic TRT dose.. that's why your not making gains. You should have been running at least 500 mg

Regarding everything else you've stated.. its ALL wrong.

I'd give you advice-- but the trend around here lately is just to tell newbs to go F off and go study more

 

[tury694]

250 mg of test a week is basic TRT dose.. that's why your not making gains. You should have been running at least 500 mg

Regarding everything else you've stated.. its ALL wrong.
I'd give you advice-- but the trend around here lately is just to tell newbs to go F off and go study more

Dude is a member since June of 2011 and this is his first post bumping a two year old thread asking a weird question. This is strange.

 

[Roush]

Dude is a member since June of 2011 and this is his first post bumping a two year old thread asking a weird question. This is strange.

Mysterious shit has been going on around here lately

 

[tury694]

Mysterious shit has been going on around here lately

You may be joking but I'm not. Some times I feel like I am going a little crazy when I read some of this shit lol.

 

[rratvai]

250 mg of test a week is basic TRT dose.. that's why your not making gains. You should have been running at least 500 mg

Regarding everything else you've stated.. its ALL wrong.

I'd give you advice-- but the trend around here lately is just to tell newbs to go F off and go study more

Thanks, I didn't expect this answer but thanks for the help. I thought this site is for advice and help. I was Wong, it's for a laugh. Yes, there is some mysterious shit going around here, but that's not me running it.. that's someone else here.
I have registered in 2011 but had accident, serious accident and now want to recover. Had a bit memory loss too.
I'm looking shit, thats why on cycle again.
Have to start from scratch.

So is there anybody who think good enough to help or this site is for a f**ing laugh?

Thanks "dude"

 

[Blueocean]

Should you be using at least 400mg per week instead of 250mg. Am I a missing something.