Opinions how to bust a nut again. LOL

[KCinToronto]

Hello everyone, it's been awhile. Sorry I've been away but personal issues, (separation from wife) have kind of taken priority relocating to my new house and adjusting to single life again.

I finished my last cycle about 5 weeks ago. Last one was Test E and Tren and I have to tell you I got really ripped. My diet was not good mind you as the breakup had my mind all over the place emotionally. I did have a couple of side effects mind you which were really dry eyes and loss of the ability to orgasm at week 11-12. I'm still having a hard time busting a nut. I took liquid Prami the entire cycle too. I had similar but worse reaction to Deca. It took me months to get my ejaculation back after Deca and I swore off that one. I have no idea what got me back to normal from that cycle. Just started to happen. I thought I had it beat on Tren with Prami as I was fine for first ten weeks. Horny as hell really. Lost sensitivity at week 11 and still can get aroused, have sex like a champ.

NOTE: I am 52, 5;9" about 200 lbs. The photo is me so I am guessing 10% bodyfat?
I've done about 4 real cycles and one Anavar only.

I didn't do PCT as I am on TRT, 100mg/TestE per week and .25mg Adex twice a week, 250 iu of HCG twice a week.

So anyone have an opinion how to get my junk back to normal? One guy suggested a HCG blast and tried 10,000 iu in a week and it seemed to help a bit, but not enough. I probably should have looked into that deeper but I was desperate. I have a few women I see now and they are getting frustrated, blaming themselves. Kind of makes them try harder, but damn I need to let go. It's not psychological either guys, as I masturbate and it's difficult to orgasm as I need to really concentrate.

I'm even taking L-Arginine and horny Goat weed. LOL

I keep trying to understand if it could be estrogen problem. If so, would low estrogen or high estrogen make orgasm difficult. Libido seems fine, but not where it was. I've tried to play with my Adex dosage but not really seeing much changes, except I bloat a bit when not taking it.

I recently read that Caber could help in this case? Any reason Caber might help but Prami stopped helping?

Any suggestions and advice are appreciated. I do prefer if we keep the insults and negativity to a minimum. LOL


KC

 

[carverelli]

Male response..... herbal supp that heightens sensitivity. daily dose on bottle says 1- 3 tablets. I take 1/2 of one. It has yohimbe in it so keep that in mind

 

[KCinToronto]

Male response..... herbal supp that heightens sensitivity. daily dose on bottle says 1- 3 tablets. I take 1/2 of one. It has yohimbe in it so keep that in mind

So you take 1/2 a tablet daily and find it helps sensitivity? Sounds like it is worth a try for sure.
I'll have to try to find it in Canada. I'll try anything. So what did you mean keep in mind "yohimbe" in it? Are there potential sides to yohimbe?

Thanks for the response.


KC

 

[carverelli]

So you take 1/2 a tablet daily and find it helps sensitivity? Sounds like it is worth a try for sure.
I'll have to try to find it in Canada. I'll try anything. So what did you mean keep in mind "yohimbe" in it? Are there potential sides to yohimbe?

Thanks for the response.



KC

It's a stimulant and may keep u from sleeping at higher doses

 

[halfwit]

Sounds to me like either your prami was junk, or you didn't take enough. Estradiol problems usually impact sex drive and the ability to get hard. Prolactin is where you can get hard, but you end up going soft somewhere between an ooh and an ahh - it also makes having an orgasm near impossible.

What dose of prami were you running? If it was from RUI, I know it's legit as it saved me from a serious case of pushing rope myself. Estradiol is also probably part of your problem, as prolactin really likes to piggyback on top of it, but it's not always the case.

A blood test would be optimal, but I know how difficult for you guys up north to obtain one, eh.

 

[carverelli]

High prolactin feels similar to me as trying to screw on painkillers, just damned nigh impossible.
Rui prami worked great for me after I got used to it. It has some bad side effects if you take too much before you've become accustomed to it.
I couldn't find my dropper once and tried to dose it from the bottle to my mouth. BAD idea!! Night sweats, chills, thought I was gonna puke all night. Didn't feel like getting busy at all

 

[KCinToronto]

Sounds to me like either your prami was junk, or you didn't take enough. Estradiol problems usually impact sex drive and the ability to get hard. Prolactin is where you can get hard, but you end up going soft somewhere between an ooh and an ahh - it also makes having an orgasm near impossible.

What dose of prami were you running? If it was from RUI, I know it's legit as it saved me from a serious case of pushing rope myself. Estradiol is also probably part of your problem, as prolactin really likes to piggyback on top of it, but it's not always the case.

A blood test would be optimal, but I know how difficult for you guys up north to obtain one, eh.

Ya I get bloodwork every six months for my TRT and my doctor here only want to run the basics. I can't get into why I need prolactin checked.

It was RUI prami and I built up to .50 mg every day. I stayed at that through the cycle. I was great for 10 weeks. Then crashed and the crash seemed sudden.
Cycle was 13 weeks long
700 mg test E per week
40 mg Dbol per day for 6 weeks
350 mg Tren A per week
.25 mg Adex every 3 days
.50 mg Prami per day
500 iu HCG per week (2 shots)

So if it is high prolactin, do I wait it out, or should I try Prami again? Or maybe Caber?
Or should these only be used on cycle?
If Estradial is part of the problem, would you guess it is too high or too low?

Thanks again for your input guys. Much appreciated.
Just met a hot one and she seems to enjoy that I last long. But not ending is bugging her, (and ME!!!)

Much appreciated,


KC

 

[halfwit]

You were taking a good dose of prami, so I'm surprised. Are you able to rub one out without issue, or is it the same thing? There is the potential for rebound with prolactin, especially if your AI dose wasn't sufficient - which could explain things.

If you're able to take care of things on your own, there's always the possibility that it's a mental thing as prolactin doesn't care who's trying to get you off.

 

[carverelli]

.25 Dex e3d with the dbol and 700 mg test seems low to me.

 

[cybrsage]

You can also look into some Cialis and / or PT-141 as aids to help for now. The Cialis works on the physical side of things and the PT-141 works on the electrical signaling side of things. Combined they are great. The PT-141 takes a few hours to start working but really shines the next day and lasts for a few days.

 

[KCinToronto]

You were taking a good dose of prami, so I'm surprised. Are you able to rub one out without issue, or is it the same thing? There is the potential for rebound with prolactin, especially if your AI dose wasn't sufficient - which could explain things.

If you're able to take care of things on your own, there's always the possibility that it's a mental thing as prolactin doesn't care who's trying to get you off.

It takes me forever to rub one out. And when the money shot comes, it kind of dribbles and does not shoot. Sorry for being graphic. It's the strangest orgasm I've ever had.

It's not mental cause rubbing one out was no problem before.

Any idea if trying more Prami would be a bad thing off cycle?

KC

 

[KCinToronto]

.25 Dex e3d with the dbol and 700 mg test seems low to me.

So maybe I'm experiencing too high estrogen? Should be an easy thing to try to verify. Just up my Adex dose for my TRT. He has me taking .50 mg of Adex a week. I take about .6 estimate as cutting these little pills is not precise. TRT is only 100 mg of test only per week. So maybe I'll try .25 mg every 2 days for a week or 2 and see what happens.

I'm still thinking Prolactin though as this only happened before on Deca.


KC

 

[KCinToronto]

You were taking a good dose of prami, so I'm surprised. Are you able to rub one out without issue, or is it the same thing? There is the potential for rebound with prolactin, especially if your AI dose wasn't sufficient - which could explain things.

If you're able to take care of things on your own, there's always the possibility that it's a mental thing as prolactin doesn't care who's trying to get you off.

Halfwit, can you explain this statement? "There is the potential for rebound with prolactin, especially if your AI dose wasn't sufficient - which could explain things." What is rebound with prolactin? and what could be done about it. Or does one just need to wait it out?

KC

 

[hiram1st]

How old was your Prami?

Did you keep it refrigerated?

Did you shake well before each use?

Just sounds a little funny you were going along fine then all of a sudden you had issues after 11 weeks. But as already stated bloodwork is needed

 

[KCinToronto]

You can also look into some Cialis and / or PT-141 as aids to help for now. The Cialis works on the physical side of things and the PT-141 works on the electrical signaling side of things. Combined they are great. The PT-141 takes a few hours to start working but really shines the next day and lasts for a few days.

Thanks Cybrsage, I have some Cialis and take it once in awhile if I need to perform, but I also take Melanotan ll which used to give me spontaneous erections but seems to not do it as regularly. Been taking it over a month now for that Summer tan. Do you, or anyone know if PT-141 works better than Melanotan ll?

KC

 

[KCinToronto]

How old was your Prami?

Did you keep it refrigerated?

Did you shake well before each use?

Just sounds a little funny you were going along fine then all of a sudden you had issues after 11 weeks. But as already stated bloodwork is needed

It is refrigerated and I don't think I did shake before. It certainly looks pretty perfectly mixed mind you. But as you said, weird that it just stopped working.

So if I could convince a doctor to give me bloodwork, are we mainly looking at Prolactin and Estradiol?

KC

 

[KCinToronto]

Male response..... herbal supp that heightens sensitivity. daily dose on bottle says 1- 3 tablets. I take 1/2 of one. It has yohimbe in it so keep that in mind

Carverelli, they don't seem to have any Canadian suppliers. I saw on one site that Yohimbe was stopped getting into Canada by Canada Customs. That may be the reason. Do you buy it online? If so could you IM me some details and I'll see if they come to Canada?

Thanks,

KC

 

[hiram1st]

It is refrigerated and I don't think I did shake before. It certainly looks pretty perfectly mixed mind you. But as you said, weird that it just stopped working.

So if I could convince a doctor to give me bloodwork, are we mainly looking at Prolactin and Estradiol?

KC

Yes prolactin and estradiol. You'll find that quite a few of tge RUI products separate after sitting from my experience orami, ralox, cialis, viagra to name a few. I shake all there products before use

 

[halfwit]

Halfwit, can you explain this statement? "There is the potential for rebound with prolactin, especially if your AI dose wasn't sufficient - which could explain things." What is rebound with prolactin? and what could be done about it. Or does one just need to wait it out?

KC

Okay, so with non-suicidal inhibition your body can suddenly find that it's free to start producing estradiol (and prolactin) once the AI/DA stop being taken. This is why some guys notice estrogenic sides going into PCT, and is also why nolva is recommended on top of clomid; as nolva does a great job keeping this surge of estradiol from playing patty-cakes with your breast tissue as clomid goes to work on restoring testicular function.

If you were borderline high with estradiol, then suddenly dropped the AI dose as well as the dopamine agonist (DA), it's very possible that this was enough to push your prolactin into the no fly zone - wrecking your ability to climax. This is also why I asked if taking care of business on your own is a problem - to rule out performance anxiety.

I do not think that cialis will fix this, and I would definitely resume the prami. You also want to be sure to shake the liquid ancillaries as they're a mixture that may settle - reducing potency. You can wait it out, but I know if I had a fresh new piece of ass waiting on me - I'd want to take care of it ASAP.

Whether or not your estradiol is still possibly high is a tough call as the sides are so damn close for low/high E2. I'd try the prami first, and see if that doesn't get you back into the swing of things first. If still no go in a week, you can look into alternatives like caber - or attacking estradiol. I'm just hesitant to look at E2 at this point as it could make things worse if it's fine, then you crash it.

Hope that clears things up a little.

 

[KCinToronto]

Thanks so much, at least I have a bit of a game plan now. I'll start the Prami again, shake it up and take really low dose to start to not get nauseous etc.

I'll also try to get my hands on some "Male Response" but might not make it across our border.

After a week or so I'll look at bloodwork options and E2. Of course I'll stay on my TRT regiment.


Thanks everyone, I'll report back what I discover.



KC