over training

[nate]

how do i know if i am over training or not??

 

[string_bean00]

Symptons can often be felt.

Fatigue, weak immune system, sore joints, weakness.

 

[huskyguy]

It's not always easy to tell, my problem is that my strength seemed to exceed my size, I could not grow. Finally a friend pulled me aside and told me that I was training too much. I was greedy and I thought that the more I worked out the better. I decided to take a short break and workout less often, as soon as I did this my bodyweight skyrocketed as did my strength. What works for one person may not work for another, I needed to work out less and in return I mad bigger gains than ever before.

 

[nate]

yah i have the same problem as u had huskyguy, i can push the same weight as ppl who are significantly bigger then me which seemd a little bit puzzling to me. is there a guidline of how many sets i shoul perform per muscle group?

 

[huskyguy]

In order to bulk up I simply switched to compound movements, 3 sets of heavy squats 10 reps, 3 sets of heavy deadlifts 7 reps, 2 sets weighted dips 10 reps, 3 sets chins 10 reps, 3 sets superslow calf raises 20 reps I do this workout 3 times a week--on squat day I do not do deadlifts and vice versa, also squat day I add heavy dumbell pullovers and bench, and deadlift day I add bicep curls--Only 3 to 4 workouts each week. I needed to up the protein so I drink lots of milk and I try to eat as much meat and eggs as I can handle. Lift as heavy as you can on your last set with perfect form--no cheating. I am doing this now and I am literally blowing up, and I am just over 9% bodyfat. Heavy deadlifts and squats are where I put most of my effort.

 

[josh81]

In order to bulk up I simply switched to compound movements, 3 sets of heavy squats 10 reps, 3 sets of heavy deadlifts 7 reps, 2 sets weighted dips 10 reps, 3 sets chins 10 reps, 3 sets superslow calf raises 20 reps I do this workout 3 times a week--on squat day I do not do deadlifts and vice versa, also squat day I add heavy dumbell pullovers and bench, and deadlift day I add bicep curls--Only 3 to 4 workouts each week. I needed to up the protein so I drink lots of milk and I try to eat as much meat and eggs as I can handle. Lift as heavy as you can on your last set with perfect form--no cheating. I am doing this now and I am literally blowing up, and I am just over 9% bodyfat. Heavy deadlifts and squats are where I put most of my effort.

wrong thread buddy

 

[josh81]

yah i have the same problem as u had huskyguy, i can push the same weight as ppl who are significantly bigger then me which seemd a little bit puzzling to me. is there a guidline of how many sets i shoul perform per muscle group?

i.e. josh
haha
well not quite exactly...I've got a bit of an upper hand on the weightlifting side but we're not too far apart from eachother

me and nate train together occasionally and are friends unless anyone is yet to realize

 

[nate]

nice post josh

 

[Bast]

If you are overtrained you know it. If u "think" u are then youre not.
thats my 2cents

 

[HardBody]

i over did the Obliques and boy oh boy, i am paying today, i agree, u know when u know, take rest days, they will pay off in the long run

 

[Faye]

I totally disagree. I think it's very difficult to overtrain. I very rarely see anyone ever work hard enough to overtrain. Heck, Ronnie does two a days and he grows. I think the problem is that people don't eat enough/properly and do not get enought rest.

 

[josh81]

I totally disagree. I think it's very difficult to overtrain. I very rarely see anyone ever work hard enough to overtrain. Heck, Ronnie does two a days and he grows. I think the problem is that people don't eat enough/properly and do not get enought rest.

Let's not forget that Ronnie is a pro whos got all the time in the world to train, and is also on steroids.
Nate's a natural bodybuilder, and must go to school all day ontop of things, so it's not always that easy to get so much sleep. Nate, I'd advise you train each part of your body once per week, 4-5 sessions a week, and dont forget your rest days. They are extremely important for growth and recovery.

 

[HardBody]

faye i disagree

I totally disagree. I think it's very difficult to overtrain. I very rarely see anyone ever work hard enough to overtrain. Heck, Ronnie does two a days and he grows. I think the problem is that people don't eat enough/properly and do not get enought rest.

Everyone is different. Ronnie, producing 100 times the normal testosterone taking 1,000cc's of juice a day(dramatization), will not feel sore ever again for the rest of his life. You are compairing a MLB star to a T-baller!!!! C'mon, get u stuff right, think about it. Anyone can over train, also, if they aren't eating right, that is still over training...

A-Rod = ME, lol, no way ronnie should come up in these boards

 

[performance_issues]

I'm gonna agree with Faye on this one because the bottom line is if u arent recovering from your workouts then u could be overtraining. It doesnt matter if your Ronnie "i take ton of juice" Coleman or the guy next door. if your not allowing your body enuff time to recuperate and give your body enough nutrients and rest and your training often enough to not to allow recuperation then u could be overtraining. and yeah if your on steroids u could overtrain as well but obvouisly u have an advantage that others dont

and yeah since nate is a natural bodybuilder he needs to pay more attention to rest sleep and his diet its part of being "natural" things are "harder" nobody ever said they were going to be easy so u have to be "smarter" about how u train and what u eat when u train and so forth

dont use since Ronnie is on the juice excuse it helps but it sure as hell aint everything

 

[Insane_Man]

I very easily overtrain.

I am taking a week off because my volume was just too darn high. Coming back with lower volume next friday. I grow the best on low volume problem is I always think I'm superman and up it gradually and screw myself in the ass.

 

[ILB50]

me personally i workout hard for 3 weeks then change my workout and take a week off completely i run during this time but for me i have gone up 20 lbs on my bench in 4 weeks and incline went up 20 lbs also and i havent hit a wall yet (knock on wood)

 

[nate]

thanx everyone for your input i am currently taking a week off from the gym and its probably th most painful week off my life every day a different joint starts to hurt. so i just have to relax