Perfect age range to start AAS and first cycle

Moppy1

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Been reading so many threads from guys in their early 20s (even 18-19) about starting their first cycle. Most older vets would agree this is way too young. Here is my story and recommendation:

I did practice what I am preaching, as I did not start AAS till 36 years of age, after my last kid, and well after I peaked in the gym (18 years of consistent working out). AAS then reinvigorated my life in the gym, and even outside the gym, in many ways. Bench went up 35% over past 9 years, as did all other lifts. Lost almost all body fat, and gained 20 lbs of muscle over this time, which I still have thanks to TRT (HRT). SO, while there are no hard fast rules to any of this, my recommendation is to wait till you have peaked in the gym, and have had your kids, which is generally in your 30s. It does worry me the number of young guys starting with AAS way too early. Read up on treads discussing TRT for life because of extended AAS use. It will happen to most of us.

SO, guidelines are:
1) I would NOT recommend getting started down the dark path of AAS till you have had 5-10 hard years in the gym optimizing your body. This ensures strong tendons, bones, and base of muscle strength, as well as knowledge about really lifting effectively. More importantly, you want to let your body build naturally through your 20s when Test is already pretty high. Having a more natural based of strength in the muscles, bones and tendons will also protect you from injury when the large jumps in strength occur with AAS.

2) Another consideration is having kids. You do take a risk of infertility on extended AAS usage.

3) 30 years old seems to be about right, maybe even a little older (but could be a little younger)

4) Waiting longer makes one mentally more secure and able to deal with the emotional aspects of AAS usage. Not worth getting into it, but there are emotional, anxiety issues that can crop up with AAS use and the game.

5) Why peak so early, as there is nothing to look forward to later in life. You will get bored of all this and the grind of the AAS game and being in the gym, give it time so working out is entrenched in your very soul, and AAS applied later in life will reinvigorate you in the gym and give you another 10 hard years.

6) Although minor, AAS use at high dosages for long periods of time probably does have some risk for cardiovascular disease and a few other things, so the longer you wait, the better the risk management with aging.

7) AAS use, especially in young people (18-25), will affect your personality. Not directly, but it will impact your self image and the way people respond to you. The older you are when all this happens, the more you can control and remain yourself. In business, when I walk into a room, other dudes (not women) naturally look to me for leadership, only because of my size and appearance. This can change your personality and self image.

8) It will affect your sexual performance. Trust me when I tell you that everything you have read about it being a sexual super charger is temporally limited. Mostly happens first few cycles. Thereafter it has the opposite effect on most of us. It effs up your sexual function, and most guys need viagra, etc. This is a sure thing with extended use, trust me.

9) You will likely need to be on TRT (HRT) the rest of your life when you stop. Not that there is anything wrong with this situation, but it is something to consider and can be a hassle. Wait till you are older.

10) It is psychologically addicting, so once you start, you will not want to stop.
 
It may not be a bad thing. It would be like coming into millions of dollars much later in life.....not likely to change you, versus being brought up with tons of family money. It impacts your personality much less when you are older. You are pretty much who you are going to be by your mid to late 30s.

There are other things that you could add as well:

11) Some of us get gyno or permanently puffy nips (never happened to me). Better to put this off as long as possible

12) you have more money later in life to really afford a proper cycle
 
i disagree with it being 30s, i dont see a problem with cycling from 25, and in some cases 21 i feel is acceptable,
its all about the base that is there to begin with!
 
Been reading so many threads from guys in their early 20s (even 18-19) about starting their first cycle. Most older vets would agree this is way too young. Here is my story and recommendation:

I did practice what I am preaching, as I did not start AAS till 36 years of age, after my last kid, and well after I peaked in the gym (18 years of consistent working out). AAS then reinvigorated my life in the gym, and even outside the gym, in many ways. Bench went up 35% over past 9 years, as did all other lifts. Lost almost all body fat, and gained 20 lbs of muscle over this time, which I still have thanks to TRT (HRT). SO, while there are no hard fast rules to any of this, my recommendation is to wait till you have peaked in the gym, and have had your kids, which is generally in your 30s. It does worry me the number of young guys starting with AAS way too early. Read up on treads discussing TRT for life because of extended AAS use. It will happen to most of us.

SO, guidelines are:
1) I would NOT recommend getting started down the dark path of AAS till you have had 5-10 hard years in the gym optimizing your body. This ensures strong tendons, bones, and base of muscle strength, as well as knowledge about really lifting effectively. More importantly, you want to let your body build naturally through your 20s when Test is already pretty high. Having a more natural based of strength in the muscles, bones and tendons will also protect you from injury when the large jumps in strength occur with AAS.

2) Another consideration is having kids. You do take a risk of infertility on extended AAS usage.

3) 30 years old seems to be about right, maybe even a little older (but could be a little younger)

4) Waiting longer makes one mentally more secure and able to deal with the emotional aspects of AAS usage. Not worth getting into it, but there are emotional, anxiety issues that can crop up with AAS use and the game.

5) Why peak so early, as there is nothing to look forward to later in life. You will get bored of all this and the grind of the AAS game and being in the gym, give it time so working out is entrenched in your very soul, and AAS applied later in life will reinvigorate you in the gym and give you another 10 hard years.

6) Although minor, AAS use at high dosages for long periods of time probably does have some risk for cardiovascular disease and a few other things, so the longer you wait, the better the risk management with aging.

7) AAS use, especially in young people (18-25), will affect your personality. Not directly, but it will impact your self image and the way people respond to you. The older you are when all this happens, the more you can control and remain yourself. In business, when I walk into a room, other dudes (not women) naturally look to me for leadership, only because of my size and appearance. This can change your personality and self image.

8) It will affect your sexual performance. Trust me when I tell you that everything you have read about it being a sexual super charger is temporally limited. Mostly happens first few cycles. Thereafter it has the opposite effect on most of us. It effs up your sexual function, and most guys need viagra, etc. This is a sure thing with extended use, trust me.

9) You will likely need to be on TRT (HRT) the rest of your life when you stop. Not that there is anything wrong with this situation, but it is something to consider and can be a hassle. Wait till you are older.

10) It is psychologically addicting, so once you start, you will not want to stop.

Intresting thread. I have to say I totally agree with #7 mostly the bold part.
 
Not to mention that alot of young adults are still having hormones and mental changes.

I believe about 26 is the bottom age that is good. Even at 21, you don't think about yur help in the future as much as if you are 30 or so and know how to monitor lipids, BP, etc.
 
Not to mention that alot of young adults are still having hormones and mental changes.

I believe about 26 is the bottom age that is good. Even at 21, you don't think about yur help in the future as much as if you are 30 or so and know how to monitor lipids, BP, etc.


Use the time between 20-30 to really do your research, so when you are ready to jump in the game, you know as much as there is to known about this "bro-science" driven experiences. Learn about diet and post cycle therapy (pct) too.
 
I'm 21, I started cycling on my 21st birthday (I'm 22 in December) I don't see the point in waiting till I'm 30 to cycle when I can look good in my prime, slay lots of poon have girls and guys mirin everywhere I go. I take ancillaries follow a correct PCT, my diet and training is spot on so I don't see why I shouldn't be cycling.
 
All great points Moppy! I see way too many young guys jumping into this without considering all the ramifications. It's one thing to understand the compounds and normal sides, but the long term emotional aspects and lifelong impact of AAS is unfortunately not something most younger guys have even considered. And dare I say, they usually don't have enough life experience to have really gained the capacity to think that way. (there are rare exceptions)
 
All great points Moppy! I see way too many young guys jumping into this without considering all the ramifications. It's one thing to understand the compounds and normal sides, but the long term emotional aspects and lifelong impact of AAS is unfortunately not something most younger guys have even considered. And dare I say, they usually don't have enough life experience to have really gained the capacity to think that way. (there are rare exceptions)

Could not agree more bro. But, I doubt anything I wrote will change anyone's mind (under 25 crowd). But, maybe it will help them think about what is happening to them, and deal with it better
 
I'm 21, I started cycling on my 21st birthday (I'm 22 in December) I don't see the point in waiting till I'm 30 to cycle when I can look good in my prime, slay lots of poon have girls and guys mirin everywhere I go. I take ancillaries follow a correct PCT, my diet and training is spot on so I don't see why I shouldn't be cycling.

Well, that is very young, but welcome to the dark side! Take it slow and be smart........
 
Thanks for the post I'm 28 and have been lifting weights for over 13 years and was considering starting AAS to break through some plateaus. I'm also type 1 diabetic and would have to mitigate these risks in addition to those of AAS. After reading your post I am going to try and fight the temptation for at least another 2 years, but the dark side of the force is so tempting...
 
Thanks for the post I'm 28 and have been lifting weights for over 13 years and was considering starting AAS to break through some plateaus. I'm also type 1 diabetic and would have to mitigate these risks in addition to those of AAS. After reading your post I am going to try and fight the temptation for at least another 2 years, but the dark side of the force is so tempting...

Awesome! Plenty of time for AAS as you get older, and diabetes already has a significant cardiovascular risk profile.......read up and use these 2 years to really educate yourself.
 
While everyone is free to do as they like, I think this is sound advice. I'm about to turn 40, had 3 kids, and been in the gym on and off as my life has allowed. I've always been happy with my look and feel, but the last 1-2 years, have been psychologically painful as I've been completely stagnant. Same weights, same size... for years I've been able to bulk in fall/winter, cut in the spring/summer. The bulking now is a real struggle with watching the fat gain, although my diet is 98% clean. Cutting is still fairly simple although it seems harder to cut slowly, thus preserving as much muscle as I can.

As a consequence, I find myself considering my first cycle after 20 years in the gym. I'm not sure if I'm looking for the physiological or psychological (or both) payoff, but I think Moppy's post, #5 specifically, is very valid.

Again, everyone's free to do as they choose, but at least be open to options.
 
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sadly I agree with both of you, I agree with Moppy on this, but also you mad bro, because lets be real here, who the fuck wants to wait until they're 30+ to start? when kids look at this shit they think of here and now, if they look good at age 18-25 , you know how many girls they'd get, thats there mind set, although it'll effect them later on, who really cares when your 30+, your considered old anyways

Haha Kids these days! That mind set is perfectly normal, since they tend to think with their lower brain! But the truth is boys, there's plenty of women to be had well past 25!

Thats why all us "old" guys are here trying to share what we know... Because whether you want to think about it or not, in just a few short years, you're going to be 30+... You'll suddenly realize you're not as flexible or quick as you used to be. Things hurt a little longer and you find yourself thinking "My God this kid was born when I graduated high school!". And if you've abused the hell out of your body before you get there, its only going to get worse. Now I don't know WTF happens at 40 or 50, but I'd prefer to have a working dick and a body without titanium replacement parts!

Point is, be smart and be safe... we only get one body.
 
There is something to be said though about having my 'dream physique' at 18-19.... when I"m in college..... not obtaining it when I'm 30-35 and settling down

It is a tradeoff..... you have to be able to HONESTLY say to yourself "Hey, by starting now I'm getting where I want to go faster, but I might not get as far, and I might not be there for as long"

If you can REALLY live with that... I don't see the problem
 
haha, I know! i'm not saying anything against ya guys, you guys+everyone here+vets are great, but when it comes down to it, do you want it now, or do you want it when your older? I'm early 20's, and i play around a lot more now than i think im going to do when im 30 anyways,

everything you do in life, is working towards your future, you go to school to go to college, to get a good job, get a good job to make good money, make good money to buy a nice house and so on, working to retirement, I say fuck it, if it was up to me i would be on this shit for years at a time, just look at arnold, hes old as fuck and he went on this shit when he was 16, and didn't get off for so long

there comes a point in life where you just need to decide, do i want it now or do i want it later? personally i rather look good between 20-28 than 30-40, but than again, I' really don't want to live till i'm past 60

im glad I came here still, and researched, because I would most likely be on test forever if it wasn't for you guys, but shits still iffy to me, I can honestly say I know a 16 year old that can bench 3 plates for reps, and he didn't even know what post cycle therapy (pct) was when I asked, he told me he does 5 pins a day already, I ran a cycle of test, with like no sides, i really didn't want to get off, honestly, my balls didn't even shrink, or anything, I feel completely fine, 0 sides, and i still put on 30 pounds, it's hard to get off something when nothing but good came from it

but that's why im happy i came here, I love knowing the proper way, even know i'm still young, you guys can only give out the information, when it comes down to it, if a teens thinking of going on this shit he's going to do it, you can only do so much!

peace and love guys

just remember, don't compare your bodies with others, I know people who started at 15 and there in there twenties now, and they got little to no sides, they get blood tests and everything and they're fine, just look at lorenzo becker, he's still going hard haha! that's really unmotivating for me, seeing guys on it for a year at a time, and they're still perfectly healthy, thinking I can do that, it's russian roulette really


These are all good points, and someone like Arnold certainly did keep it going for nearly 4 decades. Even Ronnie Coleman kept it going for almost 25 years, probably still on, though not competing any more. I guess it is just a life style choice and how pervasive you want your body image/size to be in your life. Starting later gives you more life balance, in my opinion, less likely that AAS and body image will take over your life. But I love all the bro's here and the advice and different perspectives that everyone brings to the table. There certainly are not absolutes or rules that apply to everyone. Just that most vets or older dudes such as myself, see the wisdom in waiting till you are older for so many reasons........there is probably some real truth in it.....just consider
 
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