Planned 16wk cycle - please critique (constructively!)

3J said:
makes sure your diet is SPOT ON.. kaz is actually one of my clients..
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Yeah, my diet is normally clean and well planned 3J thanks...
I stripped down nicely on cycle last summer (see avatar)
I'm hoping the longer cycle, along with the addition of 'Var this time around - should see good results...
I've learned over the years what foods my body responds badly or well too - I've calculated my TDEE, and I've learned to listen to my body on a daily basis....
I'm excited about starting this one - my main focus now though is to keep quality muscle from now til start date, stay injury free, and get the gear ready well in advance so that I'm ready to rock n' roll :)
Hence the reason for asking for critique now.

Cheers
 
DreDay187 said:
There are many different kinds of half lives in chem and bio but the two we're primarily concerned with here are terminal (or elimination) half life and active half life. The former is a measure of how long for serum levels to be reduced by 1/2 and the latter is regarding the drugs biological/physiological effects.
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Cycle adjusted... last Test E pin is now 10.5 days after last Eq pin :)
PCT to commence 2 weeks after last Test E pin

I actually bought a cheap diary for my last cycle.... I found noting every pin date, tablet date, even on cycle supps timings ensured that I never missed a trick :angel2:
 
bigben66 said:
Cycle adjusted... last Test E pin is now 10.5 days after last Eq pin :)
PCT to commence 2 weeks after last Test E pin

I actually bought a cheap diary for my last cycle.... I found noting every pin date, tablet date, even on cycle supps timings ensured that I never missed a trick :angel2:
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I did the same but with a calendar. Don't know UK laws brother but I used simple code that only I would understand in case anyone ever came across the calendar they wouldn't see "1.5ml inject on 4/15/2013" hahaha
 
DreDay187 said:
I did the same but with a calendar. Don't know UK laws brother but I used simple code that only I would understand in case anyone ever came across the calendar they wouldn't see "1.5ml inject on 4/15/2013" hahaha
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Yeah... I have my own terminology lol...
Can never be too careful! ;)
 
frank.tb said:
Just me personally.I.wouldn't incorporate that much.oral supplementation.
Standard protocol for orals is 6weeks...var is a lot more mild and is needed for the results you want.
And I want to say EQ and Dbol together is cholesterol central.
Also you want to come out lean so why bloat up with Dbol?
And as far as bp is concerned I'm not sure...I know Cialis can help and supplementing about 400mg magnesium helps "lubricate" the blood. Keeps platelets from sticking together.
And if you are set on a kickstart, drop the var and just run Tbol in the kickstart. It won't bloat you like a balloon.
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4 months supply of magnesium ordered.... now for the Cialis (I suspect this may be a little trickier than the Magnesium!)
 
bigben66 said:
You've lost me there Frank lol...
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It's a myth...does not work. Heart attack patients take it to prevent platelets from sticking together. Something to do.with plaque build up in the arteries. It doesn't "thin" your blood rly.
Drain/donate blood and you should be fine.
This is why I dont recommend eq...too much involved with running it safely lol
But everyone has their preference
 
frank.tb said:
It's a myth...does not work. Heart attack patients take it to prevent platelets from sticking together. Something to do.with plaque build up in the arteries. It doesn't "thin" your blood rly.
Drain/donate blood and you should be fine.
This is why I dont recommend eq...too much involved with running it safely lol
But everyone has their preference
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Yeah, fair enough, I should have asked for this critique before I got my order...
As I mentioned, I ran Eq on my last cycle, to good effect... hence wanting to run it again...
Now I'm a bit more clued up on it, I think I'll definitely go with other compounds next time around...
The main thing is that I take every possible means of running this cycle safely - I'm determined to do so :)

Thanks for your input Frank - I really appreciate it!
 
bigben66 said:
Yeah, fair enough, I should have asked for this critique before I got my order...
As I mentioned, I ran Eq on my last cycle, to good effect... hence wanting to run it again...
Now I'm a bit more clued up on it, I think I'll definitely go with other compounds next time around...
The main thing is that I take every possible means of running this cycle safely - I'm determined to do so :)

Thanks for your input Frank - I really appreciate it!
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Good outlook brother
Keep it up!
 
bigben66 said:
I've never used T'bol before King.... do you mind explaining the need for the higher dose in comparison to D'bol?
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Well from what I understand, on a Mg to Mg basis Tbol is less "powerful" than Dbol. Therefore, 50mgs of Tbol will not yield the results as 50mg of Dbol. Which is why you may want to run your Tbol at a higher dosage.
 
Cialis shouldn't be a problem to order, just go to RUI. I would imagine shipping to you should be no issue. I am currently experimenting on my lab rats with cialis from RUI and they LOVE it ;).

Tbol is a great compound from what I've heard and doesn't aromatize like dbol does. On a mg per mg basis, it is weaker than dbol so slightly higher doses are required. Don't confuse this with being weak, bc tbol is not a weak compound. It jus takes more mg's to get the ball rolling so to speak.

Aspirin can help temporarily and will thin out your blood somewhat making it more viscous. This is not a long term solution for when using EQ. If you're feelin like crap and your donation isn't for a few days, it may help alleviate some symptoms but it will do nothin for the underlying cause, high RBC/HCT count. The only thing that effectively deals with this is a blood donation. If your levels get too high and you're not eligible for another donation, see a doctor and do a therapeutic draw or do one on your own.
 
KingPen said:
Well from what I understand, on a Mg to Mg basis Tbol is less "powerful" than Dbol. Therefore, 50mgs of Tbol will not yield the results as 50mg of Dbol. Which is why you may want to run your Tbol at a higher dosage.
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Dammit KingPen, this is the second time in a week you've beaten me. I'm losing my touch lmao
 
KingPen said:
Well from what I understand, on a Mg to Mg basis Tbol is less "powerful" than Dbol. Therefore, 50mgs of Tbol will not yield the results as 50mg of Dbol. Which is why you may want to run your Tbol at a higher dosage.
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Thanks King... Noted....
This is coming together nicely :)
 
So, revised cycle looks like this....

Weeks 1-4
800ml test 400 mix blend (2 x 400ml pins every 3.5 days)
600ml Equipoise (2 x 300ml every 3.5 days) -
75mg T'Bol per day

Weeks 5 - 18
750ml test E (2 x 375ml pins every 3.5 days)

Weeks 5-16.5
500ml Equipoise (2 x 250ml every 3.5 days)

Weeks 13 - 18
Anavar - 90mg daily (split between am and pre-workout)

Weeks 1 -18
HCG - 500iu (2 x 250iu pins every 3.5 days)
Aromasim run throughout cycle

Weeks 19-20
VACATION!!! :)

Weeks 21 - 26 (6 weeks PCT due to my age!)
clomid - 100/100/50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/40/20/20/20

I decided to extend the Test E by a week and a half rather than cut the Eq by a week and a half - this enables me to start PCT correctly as per your advice...

Any thoughts on the adjustment would be appreciated...
 
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