please help a first timer.

[lookingforleangains]

hi! I am 6 ft 1 inch 185 pounds guy with 14-15% bodyfat .Ive been lifting seriously for last 5 yrs.

My goal is to add 12-15 pounds of LBM.

I plan to do a test only cycle. I will be using 'Testoviron depot' which is mostly testosterone enanthate with a little proprionate. I will do 400 mgs of test a week for 10 weeks.

I plan to inject 250 mgs every 5 days for the first 5 weeks and upping the dose to every 4 days for the next 5 weeks. Which will even out at 400mgs per week for the entire cycle.

Armidex: I plan to use 25 mgs every 3 days initially and increasing or reducting this dose depending on my bloodwork which I will do one month into the cycle.

post cycle therapy (pct): I plan to keep it simple and do a nolvadex only post cycle therapy (pct) at 20/20/20/20 2 weeks after my last injection

My question is about HCG at this low dosage of test that I plan to do firstly, is HCG required? and secondly how frequently and when during my cycle?

Also, should i consider using liver and joint support supplements on cycle? Is there anything that I have left out?

I want to lean bulk and minimize fat gain so how much above maintenance should I eat and at what macros?

I was thinking 500 above maintenance with a 50:25:25 ratio.( P:c:f)

 

[lookingforleangains]

what no responses????? guys pl help

 

[a68rebel]

Looks OK for a first cycle. Your liver should be OK since no Orals are used. Use HCG during at 250mg twice a week.

 

[gymrat0909]

normally nolva is taken to combat gyno, clomid would be a better choice IMHO.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Looks OK for a first cycle. Your liver should be OK since no Orals are used. Use HCG during at 250mg twice a week.

This is definetly a good way. There is more than one way, this is a light cycle try looking up the post cycle therapy (pct) sticky I think det-oak wrote. It is great tons of info. Look up the 10 day blast too.

Lots of people will tell you you don't need hcg for this cycle... maybe true but its better to have it. Honestly though nolva and clomid should handle this just fine.

Liv52 works good for liver protection... Milk thistle will be cheaper and since this is such a light cycle you don't really need a protector at all. I think your better off taking something though. Para Guava extract rings a bell too but idk, try GNC or search the web more.

Also, your diet may need adjustment. You are lean no doubt, but I would go 1,000 cal over matainence if I was you. IMO you are so lean you should overeat while on cycle, then go like 500 after cycle while you are recovering ( 1,000 is better). @ 6'1" you should be over 200 lbs.

Most importantly gj on picking your cycle. You didn't overdo it and looks like you researched well. More beginners should take as much responsibility as you did.

 

[lookingforleangains]

With regards to nolva vs clomid... I went for nova bcoz I do not want to encounter clomid related side effects. Guys please help me out here ...?

Is 500 iu of hcg every week for the last 4weeks of my cycle sufficient to prevent shrinkage? I want to avoid using too much of any compound. I fear side effects.

Lastly, is my injecting protocol of doing 1shot every 5 days and then upping in to every 4 days halfway into my cycle ok ?

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Do like 200-250 mg 2 days a week. Example 200 monday- 200 friday.

It's not nolva vs. clomid they do different things. Take the clomid and nolva 2 weeks after last shot of test E. Go 40/40/20/20 or 40/20/20/20 if your short for the nolva. Take the clomid @ 50mg daily for 21-28 days. I think your confusing the side effects of clen for clomid. . Read up on these cause your gonna wanna use clomid and almost every single cycle.

No, take the same amount 400 or 500 mg a week. Try not to taper or up or down dosage. Once you get into different ester lengths and all that stuff you can start worrying about cutoff and kicking. If its just 400-600 mg of test just see it through.

 

[Damackdaddy]

10 weeks seems a little short for your cycle? Especially for Test E which takes a while to kick in id go 15 weeks imo