Please help with first cycle

[thisismetom1]

View attachment 548592View attachment 548593View attachment 548594Hi guys i'm new here and a bit confused after reading some stuff here.
Before i go on here are my stats:
Age: 33
wt: 175 lbs
ht: 5'8
i just started going back to the gym after an injury but i try to go 5 to 6 days a week with a regular schedule for mass gain (lifting heavy, fewer reps)
a friend of mine introduced me to steroids, sus 250 and deca to be specific. He advised me to schedule my cycle as you see below, can you please tell me what you guys think of this being my first cycle and if i'm screwing it up how can i modify my regimen as i have started already, please keep in mind that i'm not worried if i have to throw something out or buy something else because i will. Thanks a million guys.

I started last week on thursday with 125ml of sus 250 and 150ml of deca to get an idea how my body will react before i commit to anything that wont react very well with my body. Then monday i took 300ml deca, then following thursday (today) 250ml sus 250 and 300ml deca. I'm told to stick to doing 250ml of sus once a week and 300ml of deca twice a week until i finish 2 bottles of both, i did a little research and it looks like a lot op people actually recommend more sus than deca, not sure why.

And then i'd like to cycle off and hoping to get some advice from you on how to do that best.

Thanks a million guys!

T

 

[SolomonGrundy]

brother you made a giant mistake sticking a needle in yourself without a plan.

1) any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or gyno considerations and where will you get stuff if you need it, you should already have it, how about if the deca gives you prolactin issues? any plan?
2) Post cycle therapy, whats your plan? got drugs to make the nuts work again ? dont think so... damn read first shoot after :-(

please go read the stickies and get the stuff you need to stay healthy

 

[thisismetom1]

I can get my hands on anything that i will need, i have some help from a friend that is pretty knowledgeable about fitness and just about everything there is to know about a human body but he's not a huge fan of roids there for i'm here for some extra advice.

 

[gearz10]

Wow ok you should of used just test drop deca. Second did you do any research? You should see how your body handles just test it takes a couple weeks to show its true colors. You need atleast 12 weeks of test. If you keep deca IMO dont, then run 14 week test 12 week deca. Deca is a longer ester it takes longer to kick in. Your sust is a mix of ester pin a minimal e3d. You'll need caber for deca sides and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to take also during cycle for estrogen sides. Your pct I recommend clomid and nolv. You should prob take a couple days and read all the noob sticky and any other material you can. Do you have a diet down? Also 500mg a week is plenty and you will see great gains as it is your first cycle. Dont over complicate it .

 

[thisismetom1]

I feel like my diet is on point, I'm on top of my proteins and I eat very clean, one cheat day. So you believe I should drop Deca? Is it OK at this point? Should I stick to same amounts of SUS? I don't think I will react in a negative ways from this because I was exposed to a similar cocktail for medical reason in the past.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

the guy who gave you the gear didnt do you any favors

read this http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...-aromatize-inhibitors-gyno-pct-must-read.html
and this http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html

once you feel you have the tools in place to deal with a problem and recover from stopping the AAS move forward

every three and a half days you inject, so 1 ml twice a week of sus, that means 500 mg of sus a week and since your a first timer and going to use it anyways use .7ml of the deca twice a week , thats 420 mg of deca a week ( i dont think you have to do 600 on your first ride)

get the PCT stuff and follow these guys directions

 

[thisismetom1]

And this you believe should take between 10 to 12 weeks? How would you work the PCT into the mix?

 

[SolomonGrundy]

And this you believe should take between 10 to 12 weeks? How would you work the PCT into the mix?

if you got the gear go 12 weeks, you want to run the test 2 weeks longer than the deca since it has a 18 day half life, then 14 days after your last injection start the PCT as described in those post i linked

clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you can ad add that
the slash = a week the number the mg of each

 

[thisismetom1]

Ok so just to recap here, I have to beef up the amount of sus x2, and draw back on deca to 0.7? Any advice on the damn pain from the shot?

 

[tbonexl]

Yea, don't be a bitch... It's gonna hurt a lil. U should've done your research and then u would know about it...

 

[SolomonGrundy]

Ok so just to recap here, I have to beef up the amount of sus x2, and draw back on deca to 0.7? Any advice on the damn pain from the shot?

warm up the oil, you can simply place it in warm water for 10 min before you need it or i fill mine then recap it and set it on the air duct with warm air on it, use http://www.spotinjections.com/ to know how to pinn, dont force it, its going to take more than a few sec, maybe 20 , let it sit a sec, then pull it out, rotate injection sites.

 

[thisismetom1]

Ok that's what I read before but I want sure how warming up the solution would effect it. In your opinion what is the best place to pin? I do have someone helping me with it all the time, I ask cause my ass is rocked right now, can't even sit. It's so bad if I stay in one place for to long not moving I can't even walk. I'm doing DECA in my shoulder and Sus in my ass. Do you think it's better to mix them together?

 

[thisismetom1]

Anyone? Any input? I've actually not taken my shot of sus this week yet 2 days late because the pain is unbearable, thinking about letting this idea go. Ive really only done 2 weeks of this stuff, do you think it's something I should just be able to stop? I'd like to continue but in my job and as much moving around as I have to do this just doesn't make sense . I heard about pain and things like that but for me to cry every time I drive over a speed bump for 5 days after the injection is just not worth it. It's retarded unless I am doing something wrong. I know I'm following the directions 100% and it still hurts like hell to the point that I feel horrible pain in the center of my all as well as the injection site of course. Does the pain ever get more tolerable at any point during the cycle? Let me know guys, make this easier lol. Thx.

 

[halfwit]

Anyone? Any input? I've actually not taken my shot of sus this week yet 2 days late because the pain is unbearable, thinking about letting this idea go. Ive really only done 2 weeks of this stuff, do you think it's something I should just be able to stop? I'd like to continue but in my job and as much moving around as I have to do this just doesn't make sense . I heard about pain and things like that but for me to cry every time I drive over a speed bump for 5 days after the injection is just not worth it. It's retarded unless I am doing something wrong. I know I'm following the directions 100% and it still hurts like hell to the point that I feel horrible pain in the center of my all as well as the injection site of course. Does the pain ever get more tolerable at any point during the cycle? Let me know guys, make this easier lol. Thx.

I bet you're shaking all over the place while injecting as you're still new to the whole pinning concept. This combined with sustanon which contains test prop and virgin muscle means you're going to hurt...A LOT. This is why the guys above were criticizing you for not doing your homework first as beginners should start off with either the enanthate or cypionate esters first. I really hope you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and SERM lined up as bhrees mentioned or you're going to be hating life in a couple months. Yes, the pain will go away - but that takes time.

 

[Metalhead]

^^^ basically it. What size pins are you using? Are you pinning yourself or is someone else doing it?

 

[wclark316]

I know people that ran deca higher then test and had good results. if you experience any sexual sides just up the test,
i like deca around 500-600 but everyone is different you will just have to find out what works for you.