Post cycle therapy (pct) + Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) Questions.

[Psychotron]

PCT + HCG Questions.

Week 1-16: 1250mg Test E
Week 1-14: 900mg Deca
Week 1-06: 75mg Dbol
Week 1-06: 75mg Adrol
Week 1-16: 25mcg T3
Week 1-16: 0.5mg Adex
Week 1-16: 500iu HCG
Week 1-14: .25mg Prami

PCT:
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

This is what I have in mind for my next cycle in two months. I've used all substances excluding the Adrol before, albiet at slightly lower dosages. The PCT I've listed above is what I used for a similar cycle [lower doses] and recovered really well. Would it be sufficient for these types of doses though? I also want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle this time. Last time, I did a 10 day blast at the end of the cycle. The question I have is how do you spread the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) over so many weeks? As far as I know it starts to degrade after 30 days and I've only come across Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in 5000iu vials. Thanks.

EDIT: Also plan on using N2Guard as well as Liv52 & NAC since I have some left over from last time.

 

[KingBF]

that's a shiton of gear. whats your stats and cycle history

 

[Psychotron]

that's a shiton of gear. whats your stats and cycle history

5'11, 225lbs fairly lean. This would be 4th cycle. Diet's perfect and hardly ever miss any days in the gym. I wanted to try out a truly heavy cycle to see how my body responds to these kind of dosages.

 

[30yostarter]

bro get rid of one of you oral kickers! If you want to use both, cut the dose in half. There are studies where folks stack em but drastically lower the dose for them to be synergistic. A double stack of 17aa over 6 weeks at full dose wouldn't be wise.

If you are going to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle, just ensure the split the dose at twice per week.

And take a look at your T3, I'm by no means an expert on T3, but I know one is supposed to taper up/down to avoid permanent thyroid issues. IMO I'd leave it out of this cycle all together.

Week 1-16: 1250mg Test E
Week 1-14: 900mg Deca
Week 1-06: 75mg Dbol
Week 1-06: 75mg Adrol
Week 1-16: 25mcg T3
Week 1-16: 0.5mg Adex
Week 1-16: 500iu HCG
Week 1-14: .25mg Prami

post cycle therapy (pct):
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

This is what I have in mind for my next cycle in two months. I've used all substances excluding the Adrol before, albiet at slightly lower dosages. The post cycle therapy (pct) I've listed above is what I used for a similar cycle [lower doses] and recovered really well. Would it be sufficient for these types of doses though? I also want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle this time. Last time, I did a 10 day blast at the end of the cycle. The question I have is how do you spread the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) over so many weeks? As far as I know it starts to degrade after 30 days and I've only come across Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in 5000iu vials. Thanks.

EDIT: Also plan on using N2Guard as well as Liv52 & NAC since I have some left over from last time.

 

[Psychotron]

bro get rid of one of you oral kickers! If you want to use both, cut the dose in half. There are studies where folks stack em but drastically lower the dose for them to be synergistic. A double stack of 17aa over 6 weeks at full dose wouldn't be wise.

If you are going to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle, just ensure the split the dose at twice per week.

And take a look at your T3, I'm by no means an expert on T3, but I know one is supposed to taper up/down to avoid permanent thyroid issues. IMO I'd leave it out of this cycle all together.

Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that T3 didn't have to be tapered when used at low doses (25mcg). I'll have to double check that. A lot of people are of the opinion that the toxicity of the orals is overstated and I would be using several liver protectants just to be sure like I have in past cycles. I may consider dropping the dosage a bit though.

 

[Psychotron]

Any other opinions on the post cycle therapy (pct) protocol?

 

[riprockwell]

PCT protocol looks good. Some guys run their clomid 50/50/50/50 but yours will be fine. It won't hurt you. As for T3, there is no such thing as permanently shutting down your thyroid on it. All thyroids have bounced back usually within 4-8 weeks while taking T3. There was a huge study on it. I would start T3 at 12.5mcg and see how you do and then bump it to 25mcg. You should be alright. The reason why a lot of people like to start a ramp up is because sometimes people will get bad shakes and anxiety when you start a dosage too high. I will say that 25mcg is not a high dose but it is better to start low to play it safe. As for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), that 30 day period is bullshit in my opinion. You have to realize, I have never seen Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) vials less than 5000ius. And remember most of us guys on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) are on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and I take 500ius per week so that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) vial lasts 10 weeks. It has been fine for me thus far and I haven't noticed any testicular shrinkage. So don't worry about HCG. I heard the degration period is 30-60 days but then again, at day 65, its not like it is going to be totally useless, etc. As for the orals, remember bro, you only have one liver. I wouldn't tax it that much. Totally unnecessary. You are taking a lot of gear and running one oral would be more than enough. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Psychotron]

PCT protocol looks good. Some guys run their clomid 50/50/50/50 but yours will be fine. It won't hurt you. As for T3, there is no such thing as permanently shutting down your thyroid on it. All thyroids have bounced back usually within 4-8 weeks while taking T3. There was a huge study on it. I would start T3 at 12.5mcg and see how you do and then bump it to 25mcg. You should be alright. The reason why a lot of people like to start a ramp up is because sometimes people will get bad shakes and anxiety when you start a dosage too high. I will say that 25mcg is not a high dose but it is better to start low to play it safe. As for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), that 30 day period is bullshit in my opinion. You have to realize, I have never seen Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) vials less than 5000ius. And remember most of us guys on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) are on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and I take 500ius per week so that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) vial lasts 10 weeks. It has been fine for me thus far and I haven't noticed any testicular shrinkage. So don't worry about HCG. I heard the degration period is 30-60 days but then again, at day 65, its not like it is going to be totally useless, etc. As for the orals, remember bro, you only have one liver. I wouldn't tax it that much. Totally unnecessary. You are taking a lot of gear and running one oral would be more than enough. Just my 2 cents.

Appreciate the response. I always wondered how all you guys would run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 500iu a week. Makes sense cause the only vials I've come across have been either 5000iu or 10000iu.

 

[Millertime]

You got some real high doses bro and why two orals? Why so much?