Preparing for first cycle

[ynwa1892]

I have been lifting for a year and a half, soon to be 21, diet is pretty good and I train hard. I plan on running a cycle in around 5+ months time. I am not certain if I will, but it is something I am very interested in doing. I have done a reasonable amount of research, and plan to do even more. I want to get it organised in advanced.

As I understand it, Test e at 500mg a week is the advised first time cycle. Another thing I have learned is that it can cause gyno in those prone to the effects of elevated estrogen. I think I already have a slight case of gyno from puberty/having high bodyfat (not sure if its that, or I just have large puffy nipples), so I am not sure how I would react to test.

I plan on getting my bodyfat to at least 15%, if I were to run test. I am not keen of the idea of needles, but I think I would be fine with it. It will be worth it. The only thing I would worry about with test is gyno and maybe acne, as I believe I am prone to both.

Another option I was considering, was running anavar at 50/60mg ED for 7-8 weeks. Now I know people hate on oral cycles, but I believe it may be a safer option for me to run first time around, considering my, what I believe is proneness to elevated estrogen side effects such as Gyno.

Considering all I mentioned, would you advise I avoid test for the time being? Maybe until at least I have really low bodyfat? Or should I still go for the standard cycle, but just take extra precautions? Or would anavar be a more suitable cycle for my first time.

TLDR;Should someone prone to effect of elevated estrogen still take test for their first cycle, or would anavar be better?

Thanks for taking the time to read, and I look forward to your replies.

 

[ozzyozzy21]

I have been lifting for a year and a half, soon to be 21, diet is pretty good and I train hard. I plan on running a cycle in around 5+ months time. I am not certain if I will, but it is something I am very interested in doing. I have done a reasonable amount of research, and plan to do even more. I want to get it organised in advanced.

As I understand it, Test e at 500mg a week is the advised first time cycle. Another thing I have learned is that it can cause gyno in those prone to the effects of elevated estrogen. I think I already have a slight case of gyno from puberty/having high bodyfat (not sure if its that, or I just have large puffy nipples), so I am not sure how I would react to test.

I plan on getting my bodyfat to at least 15%, if I were to run test. I am not keen of the idea of needles, but I think I would be fine with it. It will be worth it. The only thing I would worry about with test is gyno and maybe acne, as I believe I am prone to both.

Another option I was considering, was running anavar at 50/60mg ED for 7-8 weeks. Now I know people hate on oral cycles, but I believe it may be a safer option for me to run first time around, considering my, what I believe is proneness to elevated estrogen side effects such as Gyno.

Considering all I mentioned, would you advise I avoid test for the time being? Maybe until at least I have really low bodyfat? Or should I still go for the standard cycle, but just take extra precautions? Or would anavar be a more suitable cycle for my first time.

TLDR;Should someone prone to effect of elevated estrogen still take test for their first cycle, or would anavar be better?

Thanks for taking the time to read, and I look forward to your replies.

You have a lot of factors that should point you to not using the main one being YOU ARE 20 YEARS OLD! I bet your test levels are well within 500-600 range natty being so young which is plenty to make solid gains. Another factor is your body fat. You say you're going to get down to 15% body fat but the fact that you aren't there now reflects a poor diet and perhaps not a solid training routine. Your money would best be used on a nutritionalist. Our guy here is 3j. Awesome dude. He'll help get you where you want to be and ready for gear. I know it's not what you want to hear, but this is what's best bro. DONT EVEN CONSIDER A VAR ONLY CYCLE. You'll shut your natty test down and basically break even with what the var gives you.

 

[ozzyozzy21]

I have been lifting for a year and a half, soon to be 21, diet is pretty good and I train hard. I plan on running a cycle in around 5+ months time. I am not certain if I will, but it is something I am very interested in doing. I have done a reasonable amount of research, and plan to do even more. I want to get it organised in advanced.

As I understand it, Test e at 500mg a week is the advised first time cycle. Another thing I have learned is that it can cause gyno in those prone to the effects of elevated estrogen. I think I already have a slight case of gyno from puberty/having high bodyfat (not sure if its that, or I just have large puffy nipples), so I am not sure how I would react to test.

I plan on getting my bodyfat to at least 15%, if I were to run test. I am not keen of the idea of needles, but I think I would be fine with it. It will be worth it. The only thing I would worry about with test is gyno and maybe acne, as I believe I am prone to both.

Another option I was considering, was running anavar at 50/60mg ED for 7-8 weeks. Now I know people hate on oral cycles, but I believe it may be a safer option for me to run first time around, considering my, what I believe is proneness to elevated estrogen side effects such as Gyno.

Considering all I mentioned, would you advise I avoid test for the time being? Maybe until at least I have really low bodyfat? Or should I still go for the standard cycle, but just take extra precautions? Or would anavar be a more suitable cycle for my first time.

TLDR;Should someone prone to effect of elevated estrogen still take test for their first cycle, or would anavar be better?

Thanks for taking the time to read, and I look forward to your replies.

To be fair, at least you are planning in advance that's a good thing. And you are also right that higher bodyfat makes you more prone to Gyno. All that being said you could control your estro with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as aromasin or Aremidex if and when you do decide to cycle. In my opinion that should be about 4-5 years from now. Not months. Good luck!

 

[Yurek]

To be fair, at least you are planning in advance that's a good thing. And you are also right that higher bodyfat makes you more prone to Gyno. All that being said you could control your estro with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as aromasin or Aremidex if and when you do decide to cycle. In my opinion that should be about 4-5 years from now. Not months. Good luck!

im a 21yo and.. i could not have said it anny better

 

[CrazyMack709]

you still have crazy potential naturally bro at your age, personally I think you should take a few more years get your diet in check and natural training, as well there are many supplements you could use at 20 yr old to get some sreious results now, in the meantime if your stilll interested in AAS hang around the forums, do some heavy research and try again later the juice will always be there when your good and ready brother!!!

 

[Rastas]

you still have crazy potential naturally bro at your age, personally I think you should take a few more years get your diet in check and natural training, as well there are many supplements you could use at 20 yr old to get some sreious results now, in the meantime if your stilll interested in AAS hang around the forums, do some heavy research and try again later the juice will always be there when your good and ready brother!!!

Exactly! Stick with us. You don't have to gear to be an active member on this site. There are plenty of naturals on here too. And when it is time to cycle you will be more than prepared.

 

[ynwa1892]

I guess the consesus is to keep training hard, make my diet perfect and come back at a later date. Im currently doing a bulk, before I cut waaaay down. Currently at or over 18%. I suppose after that I will reassess the situation. I'd imagine I'll know when I'm ready, as thankfully I am not an idiot who would rush in to something like this.

Thanks for all your replies, and I'll be sure to stick around as the topic is of great interest to me.

 

[Rastas]

I guess the consesus is to keep training hard, make my diet perfect and come back at a later date. Im currently doing a bulk, before I cut waaaay down. Currently at or over 18%. I suppose after that I will reassess the situation. I'd imagine I'll know when I'm ready, as thankfully I am not an idiot who would rush in to something like this.

Thanks for all your replies, and I'll be sure to stick around as the topic is of great interest to me.

Very mature attitude, big man. Learn as much as you can. With the knowledge you gain on this site you will grow like a weed at your age without the use of gear. Gear is just the icing on the cake. It's a stepping stone to help after you hit a plateau. You know what? Go to the doctor and ask to get a full blood panel done. Take a look at where your testosterone levels are currently. Then you'll understand what we're all talking about

 

[ynwa1892]

Very mature attitude, big man. Learn as much as you can. With the knowledge you gain on this site you will grow like a weed at your age without the use of gear. Gear is just the icing on the cake. It's a stepping stone to help after you hit a plateau. You know what? Go to the doctor and ask to get a full blood panel done. Take a look at where your testosterone levels are currently. Then you'll understand what we're all talking about

I think I will get bloodwork done, just to see where im at. Anyone else got anymore advice on things to do or research. Im very grateful for all your responses.

Also considering hitting 3j up at some point to
Get my diet perfect. Id say that would provide more results than I am currently getting, or at least help build on them.
Hopefully that will keep me satisfied until im ready for gear.

 

[comrade00]

Like everyone said, wait until you are at least 23 years old.
Never run a cycle if you are over 16% body fat(also reflects poor diet)
Gyno can be controlled/prevented for the most part by taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Never run a cycle without an AI
Never do var only or any oral only cycles, will just shut down your natural test
Never run Pro-Hormones either,no matter what those people at Max Muscle or Vitamin Shope tell you,Pro-Hormones are dangerous and many consider them worse than real steroids
Stick around, educate yourself some more. Learn how to eat(hit up 3J). And when the time comes, you will be ready.