Primo/Var/HGH.....Can I get away without test?

[Burdman007]

Hello everyone, new to the board, thanks in advance for any input.

A little background on myself:

28, training since I was 15.

I'm a skinny fat hardgainer, I figured out why over the last couple years after doing blood work. My natural test levels are quite low, about 350, and my estrogen is VERY high naturally. My doctor told me it was due to my body not having nearly any cholesterol in it, especially my good which is far too low no matter what I do. Also I tend to run very high on the cortisol side.

That being said I did a cycle two years ago of test cyp. I blew up from 170-210, it felt amazing to have that much test as naturally I don't, but my estrogen even with arimidex, got out of control. Horrible gyno. My BF went from 12 to 19%. My diet was very clean, lots of eggs, boiled my chicken, raw vegetables, plain oatmeal, 7 meals a day etc...

My goals have changed I am over being big, plus my woman likes the lean look. My new goal is 180 7%. Currently I am 172 9%. I have been on hygetropin for 3 months at 3iu per day. Last month I did one run of gensci IGF.

Just started primo depot two days ago, plan on 200mg per week for 12 weeks, I get the Anavar (var) tomorrow plan on starting at 30mg every day. (I know the doses are very low, but Im not looking to add 20 pounds) I will increase the hgh to 4iu per day.

I chose Anavar (var) and primo for the obvious reason of minimal impact on estrogen. My fear is that in a few weeks as I have read here, is that my natural test(the little that I have) will diminish. Could I get away without adding any test? I don't mind a decrease in libido, I just don't want to get to the point to where I'm not rising to the occasion. Could I get away with 100mg or less of test e or c a week just to prevent that from happening?

Sorry for the novel, but i have noticed if people are too vague its a page of the pros just asking for more info. Thanks everyone!

 

[1badmofo]

since you got no replies... in short yes you can. I wouldn't expect much from those low doses. HGH, I would run 6 months

 

[bigbody250]

It will drop your test.... But with those compounds and that low of a dose it will be minimal, an estimation from what I've read around 20% drop

 

[Burdman007]

Thanks for the input fellas...here is an update... I had a delay with the var, just started that two days ago. Ive been on the primo @ 250wk for two weeks now, and bumped the hgh to 4iu per day. I have to say my body has responded better than expected. I'm already at 179, up 7 pounds....striations in shoulders coming in nicely....Lots of comments at work, "you're growing out of your shirts", "you look massive" its funny how at 172 I got a lot of you need to eat more comments. Thats typical from the average over weight co worker. My test is STRONG....I'm back to doing handstands on the toilet in the morning like when I was 16. I am a little short fused which in general I am very mellow, I have to watch that at work. Well my new goals are now 190 7%, which I WILL hit.

This is day one

I will post another photo in two weeks before I leave for Europe...could have timed the cycle better

 

[Burdman007]

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[JoosedUp]

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great results. but you're probably better off throwing your money out of a window then running 200mgwek of primo. especially without test... the rule of thumb to see real results from primo...which WILL be lean results is 600mg's/wk for 12 weeks. over a grand most likely for all of it.