pro bodybuilders doses and compounds
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Nicky_eye_lids
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If it was me and depending on my cycle goal, i would do a simple 500mg of test A or E, standard aromasin for an Ai, and hcg throughout the entire pinning. the follow it up with nolva and clomid for pct, and focus alot of my diet and training.
My body reacts harshly to strong compounds like tren to name one so i keep it simple and stick to my solid diet and hard training. lots of compounds put harsh pressure on your organs and makes you old before your time.
My body reacts harshly to strong compounds like tren to name one so i keep it simple and stick to my solid diet and hard training. lots of compounds put harsh pressure on your organs and makes you old before your time.
oldmusclemike
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IN reality that's ^^ pretty much true. As i have stated before i spent quite a bit of time in the same gym with Lee Haney in Atlanta. Doc's gym it was , i think in Riverdale or Riverside ?? long ago 85'. Talked with him , asked a few question and could not gt an answer. He didn't respond to the Questions. Next time a few weeks later He said he just follows his doctor's orders... Ha !
Same Question to Frank Zane, his answer to me was ,where did you hear specifically that I am doing steroids... ha, duh. Back up Mikey..
He wasn't smiling so I dropped it and went on with discussion about Nautilus BB Equip in which they wanted his endorsement. Of course I wanted his honest opinion of the machines for BB.
A BB show, not competition but a few big guys and special guest Tom Platz. His tree trunk Quads. Q n A time and a few Q's concerning steroid came out, but he just said that's a very private subject to me. BOOM No answer. A few pro Football players worked out at my Gym in So. Fl. THey and their doctor came and used my place for a short stent. THe only thing I got out of my questions about steroids and no answer BUT the Doc wrote me a small script for Percoset.. Ha... True story. Don't remember who everyone or their names were
SO I never got an answer from a pro.
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It seems to be the question that has one answer and that is
........it depends on the individual. Some people have to workout 4 hours a day to get the results of a guy that puts in one hour a day. Some pros work out 4 to 5 days per week while others workout every day. Ronnie Coleman says he worked out 1 hour per day 6 days per week. Other guys his size say 3 to 4 hours 5 to 7 days a week.
I said all this cuz some guys grow great on 500 and a great diet/workout routine, while other guys end up with multiple compounds and/or more milligrams of the same stuff. There are pros in my family, they admit to steroids but their doses are wildly different for the same results.
I guess a better question would be what works best for you......and let the bros on here share what worked best for them. If you look at rich pianas pro cycle that he posted on Instagram you can see that he did a lot of compounds and a lot of changing those compounds during the cycle. His logic was to keep shocking the body. If your wallet and your health can afford it then I personally think he was 100% correct in his logic. Keep the same base and switch doses and compounds throughout the cycle. Its hell on your health but that's the price.
Sorry for rambling. Just my two cents.
Take care bro
........it depends on the individual. Some people have to workout 4 hours a day to get the results of a guy that puts in one hour a day. Some pros work out 4 to 5 days per week while others workout every day. Ronnie Coleman says he worked out 1 hour per day 6 days per week. Other guys his size say 3 to 4 hours 5 to 7 days a week.
I said all this cuz some guys grow great on 500 and a great diet/workout routine, while other guys end up with multiple compounds and/or more milligrams of the same stuff. There are pros in my family, they admit to steroids but their doses are wildly different for the same results.
I guess a better question would be what works best for you......and let the bros on here share what worked best for them. If you look at rich pianas pro cycle that he posted on Instagram you can see that he did a lot of compounds and a lot of changing those compounds during the cycle. His logic was to keep shocking the body. If your wallet and your health can afford it then I personally think he was 100% correct in his logic. Keep the same base and switch doses and compounds throughout the cycle. Its hell on your health but that's the price.
Sorry for rambling. Just my two cents.
Take care bro
Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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IN reality that's ^^ pretty much true. As i have stated before i spent quite a bit of time in the same gym with Lee Haney in Atlanta. Doc's gym it was , i think in Riverdale or Riverside ?? long ago 85'. Talked with him , asked a few question and could not gt an answer. He didn't respond to the Questions. Next time a few weeks later He said he just follows his doctor's orders... Ha !
Same Question to Frank Zane, his answer to me was ,where did you hear specifically that I am doing steroids... ha, duh. Back up Mikey..
He wasn't smiling so I dropped it and went on with discussion about Nautilus BB Equip in which they wanted his endorsement. Of course I wanted his honest opinion of the machines for BB.
A BB show, not competition but a few big guys and special guest Tom Platz. His tree trunk Quads. Q n A time and a few Q's concerning steroid came out, but he just said that's a very private subject to me. BOOM No answer. A few pro Football players worked out at my Gym in So. Fl. THey and their doctor came and used my place for a short stent. THe only thing I got out of my questions about steroids and no answer BUT the Doc wrote me a small script for Percoset.. Ha... True story. Don't remember who everyone or their names were
SO I never got an answer from a pro.
OMM
Funny you mentioned Frank. I have spoken with frank a lot over the years and he doesn't remember anything.
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
If what you are saying is that he doesn't remember me...??
I would not expect him to remember me. I only spoke to him, probably 4 different times and i think it was on the West Coast of FL. My Company had projects all up and down the east and west coast of Fl. IT may have been in Tarpon Springs back in 85' as I traveled project to project finding the gyms in cities so I could train everyday. I was competing at that time.
That's exactly how I met Lee Haney,. We had one of our 4 locations Office in Atlanta. I spent much time in Atlanta and at Doc's gym .
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PS: I did several searches for Doc's gym in Riverside ? Atlanta Ga and cannot find anything on it.
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casanovaaa
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In reality we need to also know his height, age, bf%, cycle history, diet, training etc. before answering this question.
yeah bro.. nobody knows. there are no secret recipes. go check out seth feroce's steroid video on youtube because he talks about doses that he takes or has taken. or maybe check out rich pianas cycle, though i dont know how much you should take for it seeing as how he is dead..
yea thx for the reply gill I do understand no secret recipes etc,,just interested in what doses these pros take its interests me to death,
Ive taken few cycles trained real well and eat good for years and I mean years and haven't gotten anywere near were I thought id be but I just wonder if their doses are so far greater than what I take
Ive taken few cycles trained real well and eat good for years and I mean years and haven't gotten anywere near were I thought id be but I just wonder if their doses are so far greater than what I take
Hahahahahaha. There it is ^^^^^^^^
We need it all......compounds, daily exercise, and a rock solid diet. The diet is by far the hardest part and the reason so many of us fail. And oh yeah.....genetics. all the compounds in the world wont make you competitive with someone who has good genetics and is putting the work and even the compounds in.
Personally I was blessed to be pretty damn strong. My physique takes non stop work to look anywhere near what I want to look like though. Sucks for me
Eat right, work out hard, and use my body as a Guinea pig with different compounds to see what works best. That's most of our lot in life. Good luck
We need it all......compounds, daily exercise, and a rock solid diet. The diet is by far the hardest part and the reason so many of us fail. And oh yeah.....genetics. all the compounds in the world wont make you competitive with someone who has good genetics and is putting the work and even the compounds in.
Personally I was blessed to be pretty damn strong. My physique takes non stop work to look anywhere near what I want to look like though. Sucks for me
Eat right, work out hard, and use my body as a Guinea pig with different compounds to see what works best. That's most of our lot in life. Good luck
casanovaaa
Senior Member
hows the diet going there Ira? what do your macros look like?
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