protein is protein?

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... ok ... someone said to me earlier today.... protein is protein... we were arguing about the benefits of "REAL" food over protein shakes. thoughts please. common guys don't be shy and sound off.
 
real food is better. more nutrients, better bioavailability. Does it really make that big of a difference? no.
 
Suareezay said:
real food is better. more nutrients, better bioavailability. Does it really make that big of a difference? no.

agreed. also if your going for 1.5-2 grams per pound of bodyweight its going to be alot harder to achieve this with strictly food and no shakes. Shakes are an easy way to get the grams up with out having to take in a lot of excess cals and other stuff.
 
they both have there place in a diet...i would try to get a mix of both, however i have no problem attaining 200-300g a day of protien with out a shake..but i do use them. the major difference is amino acid profiles..real foods you are gonna get a mix of amino acid profiles..with a shake like whey all day long..its the same amino acid profile all the time..but really who uses only shakes all day long?
 
they have different release profiles, contain different amounts of essential amino acids, effect blood levels differently. Whey has been shown to be anabolic yet not effect muscle catabolism caesin highly anticatabolic not as anabolic as whey.
Its all about a balance
 
*Real foods ARE NOT protein shakes. Try living for the rest of your life on shakes and see what happens.
*and even so, protein IS NOT protein. There are different kinds with different benefits. To set a stupid example, some of your bones is protein. Not even water soluble. The differences between say, milk or soy or whey protein, are more subtle off course, but they are there.
 
As an added note, you should ALWAYS prefer real food over shakes. Drink shakes when you have no other option. (eg. when stomach is too full for a real meal)
 
Thoms said:
*Real foods ARE NOT protein shakes. Try living for the rest of your life on shakes and see what happens.
*and even so, protein IS NOT protein. There are different kinds with different benefits. To set a stupid example, some of your bones is protein. Not even water soluble. The differences between say, milk or soy or whey protein, are more subtle off course, but they are there.


thank you Thomas !!!!!! this is my stance exactly !!!!!!!! .. there is no way that protein is protein.. PERIOD !!!!! ... real food is so much richer in nutritional vlue and substance than say a whey shake.

that being said, whey does have its place as a "suppliment"... but hence the word itself "suppliment"...... real food first,,, supps second.
 
lilboy2 said:
that being said, whey does have its place as a "suppliment"... but hence the word itself "suppliment"...... real food first,,, supps second.
as with anything though.....with the word, "supplement" is as....
 
I say that protein is protein. In the real world no one is going to rely on protein shakes as their only source. But when you have those days when you are not hungry or dont have time a shake can be substituted for a meal any time. Especially if you add whole foods to it like fruit, oats, flax...

For example when I wake up i am not hungry nor do i have time to scramble 10 eggs, boil some oats... but i do have time to make a shake with 3 scoops protein, cup of milk, 1 cup oats, 1 tsp flax oil and a bananna. That is essentially a whole food meal in liquid for so might not count as a shake for some of you. But treat all of your meal-skipping shakes like this and you will be on stage with Coleman in no time :laugh:
 
not to hijack the thread but i heard drinking a whey shake after ur workout is better because u absorb it better is this true? opposed to eating a high protein meal right after.
 
Phil9999 said:
not to hijack the thread but i heard drinking a whey shake after ur workout is better because u absorb it better is this true? opposed to eating a high protein meal right after.
Yes, you absorb a whey shake faster than a real meal, and some use it right after workout in the hopes of recovering/building quicker.
 
true,,, whey post work out is great. like thoms said , it is absorbed quickly into the system. ALSO ,, this is why "real" foods benefit during the course of the day. as "real" foods will release amino aids to the body slower during digestion, this allows a more steady supply of amino's to the muscles trying to repair: as well as the rest of the body for upkeep of mass.
 
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