review my first cycle of anabolics

[BVS]

Hey guys
looked at using aas two years ago but after doing some research I decided to give it some time to learn more and reach my natural goals. But now the time has come to look at anabolics again. I have done lots of what I consider to be quality research but would appreciate some input by those with hands on experience.

22 years old (yeah I know dont tell me im too young)
6 ft tall
75kgs cut
At the moment bulking 95kgs at around 12%


Diet is consistent and relatively clean around 3000-3500 cals a day

workouts are typical bodybuilding style hard and intense 5-6times week

So the plan is dependent or sources etc but:
Weeks 1-10 Test e or c (does it really make a difference?) 500mg a week split into 2 doses mon/thurs

weeks 1-4 dbol 40mg split into 20mg morning 20mg pre workout

pct 2 weeks after lasr pin:
hcg 500iu every other day for 2 weeks
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

One question I have: is it worth taking arimidex for gyno throughout the 10 weeks of the cycle or just use it if needed? In which case how much and for what duration or is it just until the gyno symptoms go away?

so thats pretty much it thanks guys and I look forward to some constructive opinions

 

[Norsegod]

First, do test only for your first cycle cuz you don't know how you'll respond to it and if you aren't used to handling e2 sides then dbol is definitely the wrong thing to add. Save the dbol for next time.

Second, extend the test to 12 weeks.
Third, run adex eod throughout cycle starting from week two dosed at .25-.5mg
Fourth,hcg should be ran throughout cycle at 250ius twice a week and stop ten days after last pin of test.

Finally, it doesn't matter what kind of test you choose. Test e and c are very similar in half life. Go with either one of those for your first run.

Btw....YOU'RE TOO YOUNG

 

[Norsegod]

Oh and up the calories. Aim for 3750a day with a good balance off macros

 

[BVS]

Yeah I agree I was always going to up the calories and the dbol was optional so ill drop it till next time.
Whats the thinking behind taking hcg throughout the cycle? My understanding of it was to just give your testes a little kick into gear as you come off.

One last question, my source has recommended sustanon is there any advantage to using that over test e or c? Ive also heard it can be pretty painful to pin although that doesn't really matter.

 

[Norsegod]

Ask the sus I have used is pip free. If you use sus then you should pin eod. Just go with e or c. Hcg throughout just keeps everything running and never shuts down completely so recover is a breeze. Why shut it down then fight to get it back on when you can just leave it on low for awhile?

 

[tbonexl]

What's a kilo like 2.2 lbs or something? Your pretty thin for 6'. I would put some quality lbs on before starting a cycle. By then you'll be a lil older.

 

[BVS]

Thanks for the solid advice man

 

[BVS]

Works out to roughly 210 pounds

 

[Mad- scientist]

I would personally say wait on doing steroids if you aren't trying to compete on a really high level and your willing to take the risk of fucking up your natural testosterone. If your just trying to have a good physique it is completely attainable with out steroids. At 22 your body still isn't fully developed you should wait tell around 24. I started steroids at a young age and it didn't stunt my growth to my knowledge but I feel like it has lowered my natural testosterone.

Also you need to get blood work done before you go on cycle. You want to see what your natural testosterone levels are with out a doubt. And also possibly look into blood tests for cholesterol levels and also for the liver. In theory that would be the best thing to do. Also you want to get your estrogen levels tested for around the middle of your cycle. And your going to want to donate blood around the middle of your cycle also to keep your HCT levels in check. And than also once you have completed your PCT a couple months later you want to get your testosterone levels checked again to make sure you recovered ok before starting another cycle.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Blood tests are expensive to

 

[Norsegod]

I would personally say wait on doing steroids if you aren't trying to compete on a really high level and your willing to take the risk of fucking up your natural testosterone. If your just trying to have a good physique it is completely attainable with out steroids. At 22 your body still isn't fully developed you should wait tell around 24. I started steroids at a young age and it didn't stunt my growth to my knowledge but I feel like it has lowered my natural testosterone.

Also you need to get blood work done before you go on cycle. You want to see what your natural testosterone levels are with out a doubt. And also possibly look into blood tests for cholesterol levels and also for the liver. In theory that would be the best thing to do. Also you want to get your estrogen levels tested for around the middle of your cycle. And your going to want to donate blood around the middle of your cycle also to keep your HCT levels in check. And than also once you have completed your PCT a couple months later you want to get your testosterone levels checked again to make sure you recovered ok before starting another cycle.

This is the most important stuff, by far. So follow this type of info as if it's your bible. You have seen the light.

 

[BVS]

Yeah blood work was already considered a must and its free here in Australia so thats no problem. The age thing has been a concern of mine obviously I want to be as healthy as possible thats why I waited 2 years already

 

[Norsegod]

I really think you should wait two more. I'm on trt and trust me, it sucks. Starting so young you're upping your chances of having low t before thirty. Pinning is fun and exciting when it's just for a few months out of the year, but when it becomes something you HAVE to do...FOREVER....yeah...