Sacrificing ROM for a wider grip, who does it?

[MrWest]

I'm starting to see a lot of bigger guys do this.
For example:
With a neutral grip military press, you lower to the lowest part your can comfortably(lets say chin). Now when you take a wider grip and use a little more weight, the wider grip only allows you to lower to ear level comfortably, but you still are using the targeted muscle and with more weight.

or
A wider grip Barbell row won't allow you to fully pull to your body.
A wider grip pullup won't let you pullup as far.
A wider grip bench won't let you touch your chest comfortably.
I can't exactly say that this is doing partial rom, since you are still doing a the most-complete rom the wider grip will allow..

Does anyone use this to their advantage for heavy weights, better muscle contraction ect, or having any experience in experimenting with this?

 

[07Lane40]

take some weight off and do full range of motion military press. it should come down to your chest.

IMO if you can't do the full ROM you have too much weight on. with the exception of the pull-up there is no reason to not be able to do the exercise full unless is a specific training exercise like benches with boards for tris. some areas need specific training - like lockout for heavy lifts, but if you're not really lifting that heavy then you don't need them.

its like asking is it okay to use a really wide stance to do squat so you don't have to go to parallel. just use a reasonable grip and do the full exercise.

 

[MrWest]

take some weight off and do full range of motion military press. it should come down to your chest.

IMO if you can't do the full ROM you have too much weight on. with the exception of the pull-up there is no reason to not be able to do the exercise full unless is a specific training exercise like benches with boards for tris. some areas need specific training - like lockout for heavy lifts, but if you're not really lifting that heavy then you don't need them.

its like asking is it okay to use a really wide stance to do squat so you don't have to go to parallel. just use a reasonable grip and do the full exercise.

I don't need to be told to use full ROM, I already, always have, and teach others how.
I'm asking if the concept of overloading a movement with a grip that is so wide a full ROM is IMPOSSIBLE, and a higher weight has it's place, and what the place is.

 

[07Lane40]

I don't need to be told to use full ROM, I already, always have, and teach others how.
I'm asking if the concept of overloading a movement with a grip that is so wide a full ROM is IMPOSSIBLE, and a higher weight has it's place, and what the place is.

i stated that in the post above. if you need it for further training for the full rom. like using boards for lockouts for the bench.

i wouldn't EVER use such a wide grip/narrow grip that it caused my ROM to be limited because you're asking for injuries to tendons/ligaments etc.

 

[07Lane40]

that being said i don't believe that most people that go to the gym and lift should use anything other than full ROM. partials are just a cop out unless you're a competitive lifter or bodybuilder who needs the partial to strengthen a certain range of motion to get over a plateau within the full ROM. make sense? I wasn't trying to flame.

 

[MrWest]

i wouldn't EVER use such a wide grip/narrow grip that it caused my ROM to be limited because you're asking for injuries to tendons/ligaments etc.

This is what I was thinking.
I imagined it greatly increased the injury risk on many exercises without much benefit..
The only benefit I got from trying it out was with extremely wide upright rows, they made my delts blow up, but I stopped because I could feel it just wasn't a healthy movement.