Second Cycle advice needed and opinions!

youonlyliftonce

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Hello, fellow steroidology members! I have been reading here for the past year and just recently decided to make an account and post. I'm 2 weeks into my second cycle. Had an experience vet on first and was under supervision. I was also reading here!

Stats-
Male
5'7
Second cycle(previously stated)
First cycle was test-cyp @ 400mg pw 12 weeks (Pct was clomid 100/75/50/50, nolva 40/40/30/20 adex .25mg e3d)
22 ( I know I will be flamed for this, but I haven't grew an inch since 9th grade)
Current weight: 193lbs
14% bf ( I know I should of waited until I was back down to 10-12%, but man do I like the feeling of being "ON")


Currently eating 6-8 meals per day, carbs:400, protein:275 Fats:75-100(varies). Calories consist from 3800-4800 per day. I usually don't count veges for carbs either. I did have blood work done, but to make a long story short I was 100% recovered. Just have a few questions that I think the vets can answer. Sorry if I have questions that already been answered. Okay, now for the fun part! I am currently on 600mg of test-cyp pw. Im inj. twice per week. I do have left over adex from last cycle along with clomid and nolva so I am good on that. I currently have 3 bottles 250mg 10ml of test cyp. Now for the good part... I originally planned to just stick with test for this second cycle, but was wondering if Winstrol (winny) is worth it for the last 4-6 weeks? I was thinking this may be just too strong, and I might go with something more milder like Anavar for instance. I have been reading about Deca, but was going to have that for later down the line. I mean, maybe 4th cycle? How much more would I gain if I added Dbol for the last 4-6 weeks? I am thinking I can easily get up to 205, since last cycle I kept nearly all my gains. Went from 172 to 195 and I was way more defined, and lost fat. Post pct I gained a little bit of fat obviously. Would highly appreciate advice here to keep bf off this time around. I have resources available, and can get anything else I might need tomorrow. I am taking multi vitamins, milk thistle, b-6 and b12(not inj.), creatine, pump-hd, and flax seeds. Thanks everyone for viewing and I do apologize for grammer. Thanks! Anymore info needed and I will reply asap! Also, sorry if its in the wrong category! I have also contacted 3J and will be signing up with him once I get the money next week.
 
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Or stay natural for another 2 yrs.
Stunting height isn't the only concern with younger guys using AAS.
Best of luck
 
Or stay natural for another 2 yrs.
Stunting height isn't the only concern with younger guys using AAS.
Best of luck

You're are absolutely right! Bodybuilding is a passion of mine though. I am very dedicated and like stated above, will be hiring 3J for a year. I will have him as my nutritionist if the hype is true!
 
Run the arimidex with your cycle. Preferrably every other day at .25 - .50 mg. You definitely don't want your estrogen levels running high.. it won't completely kill your estrogen levels, just keep them under control. What will kill estrogen levels would be a high dose of Letro. I wouldn't mess around with the anavar or winstrol IMO. Anavar has such a small impact on me for the price.. I'm better off saving that money for something more worth while. Winstrol is a killer on the joints. With you being younger and not having much experience/not being completely developed, the last thing you'd want to do is fuck up your joints and waste that perfectly fine Test Cyp cycle..
 
According to your cycle and pct plans (adex during pct?) You should hold off a bit and do more research
Just because this is your second cycle doesn't mean you did it right the first time.
 
According to your cycle and pct plans (adex during pct?) You should hold off a bit and do more research
Just because this is your second cycle doesn't mean you did it right the first time.[/QUOTE

Maybe you're right sir. I hear different opinions when to run it honestly though. I gained roughly 25lbs and at my height am way past my genetic potential. I safely cycle gear and am smart about it. I believe there are worst things I could be doing quite honestly. I was just asking advice sir that's all. Thanks anyways. I stopped it at last test shot first cycle (did what I was told from here by a well known member.)
 
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How did you get to 600mg Test Cyp PW ? Is that what your first cycle was or you've added?

First cycle was 400mg per week (pharmacy grade). I got some ugl now and it doesn't even compare! I believe it is underdosed, but everyone says that your first cycle is usually your best anyways. Was told since I wasn't using another compound I could increase the dose, to enhance gains.
 
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