second cycle advice ...........

[KAY1C]

stats age 21
weight 198 lbs
bf%- 12-13%
training -4 years
first cycle dbol(30 mg ed-5 weeks) + test (500mg ew)1-12 wk

second cycle
400 mg deca 1-12 wk
450 mg eq (1-10 weeks) frontload 900 mg (for first 2 weeks)
test e 500 mg 1-14 wk

ai-letro(0.25) eod,arimidex(0.25) ed
prolactin control-prami - 0.25 ed

pct clomid- 100/50/50/25
nolvadex-40/20/20/10

 

[riprockwell]

Honestly, I see no need in adding EQ to the mix for a second cycle. Stick to test and Deca and that should be more than enough. Also, I don't see a point in running letro along with adex unless you are super estrogen sensitive and have confirmed this. I have never run Prami so I can't comment there. As for your PCT, I would run 50mg clomid that last week instead of 25. Same goes for the Nolva, I would run 20mg that last week. Other than that, it looks alright to me.

 

[KAY1C]

ok ill keep the eq out this time but i added it because it increase the prodcution red blood cells and that result in more agility hence more intense workouts .i am super senstive to estrogen thats why m using both and letro gives u that dry look.tx for advice

 

[riprockwell]

ok ill keep the eq out this time but i added it because it increase the prodcution red blood cells and that result in more agility hence more intense workouts .i am super senstive to estrogen thats why m using both and letro gives u that dry look.tx for advice

True on EQ but in turn that also thickens your blood and actually raises your blood pressure. I feel pretty damn lethargic on EQ and you will pretty much need to donate on top of Testosterone raising your RBC's. As long as your watch your diet and control your estrogen deca will give amazing results. Good luck.

 

[ozzyozzy21]

Honestly, I see no need in adding EQ to the mix for a second cycle. Stick to test and Deca and that should be more than enough. Also, I don't see a point in running letro along with adex unless you are super estrogen sensitive and have confirmed this. I have never run Prami so I can't comment there. As for your post cycle therapy (pct), I would run 50mg clomid that last week instead of 25. Same goes for the Nolva, I would run 20mg that last week. Other than that, it looks alright to me.

I agree. No need for both deca and eq. I say pick one and if it was me I'd pick deca. I just finished test 600/eq 600 for 15 weeks. Eq didn't really blow me away with what it did for me. I also wouldn't frontload if I chose eq. That's an old school technique that doesn't have much merit IMO. I don't like how the last week of post cycle therapy (pct) your doses are tapers down. I'd just do the clo 100/50/50/50, but could just be personal preference. Good luck

 

[ozzyozzy21]

True on EQ but in turn that also thickens your blood and actually raises your blood pressure. I feel pretty damn lethargic on EQ and you will pretty much need to donate on top of Testosterone raising your RBC's. As long as your watch your diet and control your estrogen deca will give amazing results. Good luck.

True day on the blood thickening. I had to donate during my cycle. It's tricky too nowadays since banks won't let you donate if your hemocrit is too high. Gotta get tested and donate before it gets too high. Eq=high maintence.

 

[KAY1C]

i donate blood so its not a big deal .yeh my diet is on point and heared alot good things about deca .tx again mate

 

[KAY1C]

I agree. No need for both deca and eq. I say pick one and if it was me I'd pick deca. I just finished test 600/eq 600 for 15 weeks. Eq didn't really blow me away with what it did for me. I also wouldn't frontload if I chose eq. That's an old school technique that doesn't have much merit IMO. I don't like how the last week of post cycle therapy (pct) your doses are tapers down. I'd just do the clo 100/50/50/50, but could just be personal preference. Good luck

yeh it works for some nd not for some .i ll go with deca this time ll add eq to next cycle . last time i got a rebound from this protocol so ill taper nolva to 10 this time nd ll do clomid as u said