Second Cycle discussion and advice please, Adding Anavar

[Mr.D.]

I'm 45, 5"8" 190lbs, 18%BF

I have been back in the gym for 2 years. After poor results I sought test level testing and found out I'm a low producer. Natural test levels at 190/210/215 on three consecutive tests. After 6 months of TRT things were MUCH better, and planned and executed per my research here my first cycle of Test E only at 600mg/week, i bumped it at the end of 12 weeks to 900mg a week (and went off TRT). Solid results.

My second cycle is starting in two weeks. I'm back on TRT now at 240mg Test C, every other week. I'll have full blood work done up front to determine baseline test levels at that maintenance dose ( and to know Estro levels, PSA et al...)

On my first cycle I had some minor water issues, but no other problems. Diet/sauna/water intake worked well to get the bloating down. Mid cycle blood work revealed slight elevation in E2. I take 400mg of DIM each day, which was recommended (at a lower dose) by my TRT doctor.

Second cycle plan.

12- weeks of 800mg per week Test E (this includes the TRT dose)
last 6 weeks - Adding 40mg ED Anavar (good source)

Diet is solid, macros are 50/25/25 protein, carbs, fat. Carb source are good, fat is good. Fasted (morning) HIIT cardio will be added 3-4 times a week.

I'm working on calorie counts.

I need advice on two things.

1. Should i do the var at the start of the cycle or the end (supply is limited)
2. I need to consider PCT even on TRT, input is needed.
3. Need an AI recommendation from some experienced guys.

Goals here are to drop 4-5% body fat, while increasing a harder (larger) look.

Thanks.

 

[Megatron28]

I m really surprised you didn't need an AI on 600mg of test/week with 18% body fat. Are you sure your Estradiol wasn't elevated?

Why would you need to run PCT if you are on TRT? When you are done blasting you just return to your TRT dose.

Arimidex or Aromasin are both good AI's.

Use some NAC if you are going to run an oral.

How much hCG are you running per week?

 

[tbonexl]

Run var at the end. If I were to run 800mgs of test I would need a good dose of an ai. I wouldn't recommend what I use so I'm not posting it. I guess a good start would be adex @ .50eod or Aromasin @ 12.5 every day. Probably would need a higher dose of Aromasin but bloodwork will tell you if so...

 

[Mr.D.]

Mega - Thanks for the input. My Estradiol did come up mid cycle but not into the range that mr TRT doc wanted to treat with the AI, I might be just under 18%, most of the fat left is back, gut area, sides under arms, vascularity in shoulder, arms and chest has gone way up, huge strength gains. I'm guessing it's mostly noobie gains, but I understand that, and the best part has been my commitment level and appreciation of the routine is back. I was higher than 600mg/wk the last couple of weeks.

I have chosen the adex for the AI - eod, and have it on hand, but it was easy to get and I might go with the TRT docs recommendation at mid term blood work. You guys great to add in your knowledge here. Thanks so much. I'm going to post a b-receptor thread and start looking at fat with restricted b-receptor counts, or tough to burn fat, I know it's whole body and I think I'm gaining on it.

 

[Mr.D.]

TB, i'll do that. and since I'm bumping up from a steady 600mg last time (with a surge at the end) to a steady higher dose, I'm going to have adex on hand.

Pre-cycle blood in 12 days, cycle to start in 14 or so days. With a good base line in hand.

I have had very little if any testicluar shrinkage, some. The TRT has my libido at a very strong level, and I feel a solid balance right now. The hcg is still undecided, and I will prime my doctor with that last next week, it worries me some. I do have nolva on hand, and could take a low does of that on cycle, but again, i'm uncertain here and trying set myself up for best health, using input here and from my doctor.

I'm concerned with the var total shut down at the end. I will surely stay on the TRT does long term, as my natural production was shit before I ever considered AAS.

Your guys are really great sending time here helping out.

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