Serms --- tell me about it

[R013C]

Looking to put on lean mass, increase vascularity, strength and have some nice muscle separation.

Honestly don't think I'm ready for the test only cycles yet, need to build my base a bit more.

A friend of mine mentioned SERMS, what is it?
Is it as effective as test? Does it require no pct?
Is it a good option to start or try before jumping right into a first cycle? If you've done SERMS how were the results?
What's a good SERM cycle for my goals?

Stats:
5'11
29 years
193lbs
18-19% bf

 

[Milton]

Looking to put on lean mass, increase vascularity, strength and have some nice muscle separation.

Honestly don't think I'm ready for the test only cycles yet, need to build my base a bit more.

A friend of mine mentioned SERMS, what is it?
Is it as effective as test? Does it require no pct?
Is it a good option to start or try before jumping right into a first cycle? If you've done SERMS how were the results?
What's a good SERM cycle for my goals?

Stats:
5'11
29 years
193lbs
18-19% bf

HI, If you do an Advance Search in the featured tab you will get all kinds of answers as to what SERMS is. This is also your first cycle? and you want to add more to it?

 

[R013C]

HI, If you do an Advance Search in the featured tab you will get all kinds of answers as to what SERMS is. This is also your first cycle? and you want to add more to it?

Thanks, Milton. I haven't done a cycle yet, I was wondering more if SERMS are a better option for me to start off with before running a cycle.

 

[Roush]

there is a world of difference between SARMS and running an AAS cycle (running test). . . so much so that there is no evidence (established) that Sarms do anything for muscle building and performance (they are not banned in competition, as far as I know), where as Test and AAS are without a doubt scientifically proven to be anabolic and build muscle.

put it in perspective .. large pharmaceutical companies make Testosterone, Deca, Primobolan , etc. (AAS compounds) and sell it because it works, period . NO pharmaceutical companies produce and manufacturer SARMS for any medical purpose (because the research is not yet there that they even work). . . any sarms that you may get your hands on do not come from a pharmacy (its just 'home made' chems).

jumping into SARMS as your 'first time' go around (instead of running test), is like stepping over a real dollar bill to pick up a 'fake' penny.

what is it from your research that makes SARMS appealing to you ? rather then running a tried and true and medically safe compound like testosterone

 

[Roush]

Looking to put on lean mass, increase vascularity, strength and have some nice muscle separation.

Honestly don't think I'm ready for the test only cycles yet, need to build my base a bit more.

A friend of mine mentioned SERMS, what is it?
Is it as effective as test? Does it require no pct?
Is it a good option to start or try before jumping right into a first cycle? If you've done SERMS how were the results?
What's a good SERM cycle for my goals?

Stats:
5'11
29 years
193lbs
18-19% bf

oh and by the way , I'm assuming you meant SARMS and NOT Serms (as SERMS are female cancer drugs used for pct and do not have any anabolic properties)

SARMS = Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators

SERMS = Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators

 

[R013C]

oh and by the way , I'm assuming you meant SARMS and NOT Serms (as SERMS are female cancer drugs used for pct and do not have any anabolic properties)

SARMS = Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators

SERMS = Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators

Thanks appreciate the info! It was just small talk in the gym, mention of SARMS called S4 & OTSA.

Really had no knowledge on it and figured someone here could help me out.

Love this forum, lots of info and knowledgable people.

 

[R013C]

What I found appealing about it was the idea of no pct, no shut down of natural test, the obvious needles etc. I was more curious about it than anything.

 

[Roush]

I've ran s4 and gw50 .. I've ran test, deca, primo, masteron, dbol, etc.. and there is just is no comparison. BUT, there are some people taking way over recommended dosages of SARMS that have reported some benefits. the 'appeal' is there for sure, but the appeal does not mean crap unless there are real and measurable results (gaining 30 pounds and increasing your bench press 75 pounds in 6 weeks is real with AAS , not with sarms).

After trying sarms at reasonable dosages, with little results ,, I've decided to just stick to AAS use (which has been monitored and tested for 50+ years) AND have decided NOT to be a guinea pig for the current black market sell of 'research chemicals' that have no medical or pharmaceutical use.

once you get over any 'hang ups' with AAS use (like needles), you'll see the appeal for sarms is really not there (its there on the surface only, imo)

just my 2 cents .. hopefully there will be more future research and furthering information on the use of sarms for bodybuilding and performance enhancement (as well as medical use)