Short Cycle Critique Test Prop+Anavar

[paulaner6947]

I've been researching AAS for quite some time, and I have been interested in the idea of running multiple short cycles with 2 weeks on 4 weeks off because it seems to line up more with my goals than a standard 8-12 week cycle. Most of my research in short cycles came from Bill Roberts. After day 42 I would wait 7 days before running another 2 week cycle. This would be my first experience using AAS.

Proposed Cycle:

Day T Prop Anavar Aromasin Nolva
1 300 50 12.5
2 100 50 12.5
3 100 50 12.5
4 100 50 12.5
5 100 50 12.5
6 100 50 12.5
7 100 50 12.5
8 100 50 12.5
9 100 50 12.5
10 100 50 12.5
11 100 50 12.5
12 50 12.5
13 50 12.5
14 50 12.5
15 12.5 80
16 12.5 40
17 12.5 40
18 12.5 40
19 12.5 40
20 12.5 40
21 12.5 40
22 12.5 40
23 12.5 20
24 12.5 20
25 12.5 20
26 12.5 20
27 12.5 20
28 12.5 20
29 12.5 20
30 12.5 20
31 12.5 20
32 12.5 20
33 12.5 20
34 12.5 20
35 12.5 20
36 12.5
37 12.5
38 12.5
39 12.5
40 12.5
41 12.5
42 12.5

Edit: Formatting was lost when I posted, sorry about that.
Day 1: Test Prop 300mg, Anavar 50mg, Aromasin 12.5mg
Day 2-11: Test Prop 100mg, Anavar 50mg, Aromasin 12.5mg
Day 12-14: Anavar 50mg, Aromasin 12.5mg
Day 15-42: Aromasin 12.5mg
Nolva 40/20/20 Starting Day 15

Questions:
1. Should I bump up the anavar dose to 75 or 100mg a day?
2. Should I start Aromasin at 12.5mg a day and go up is necessary, or should I start at 25mg a day and go down if necessary?
3. Am I overdoing the PCT? Would I be good running just 20mg nolva from the start? Should I run it for just 2 weeks, or up it to 4 weeks?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

 

[paulaner6947]

Thanks for the feedback. I will likely be taking your advice on points 1 and 2 unless I find something definitive telling me to do otherwise, which I doubt. I was considering adding HCG, but hadn't made up my mind. I plan to continue taking Aromasin throughout PCT and for 1 week after, so I will not be adding clomid.

For the point you made in the edit, I agree with your that there is obviously a risk of permanently messing up my endocrine system, but that is a risk all AAS users have to rationalize and deal with. One of the reasons the short cycle is appealing to me is the very short shutdown time, which should make recovery easier. The formatting in my first post was messed up, but I'm actually stopping the use of the prop and var by day 14, and starting PCT on day 15. I made an edit to help clarify the cycle.

 

[Bigboss12]

Thanks for the feedback. I will likely be taking your advice on points 1 and 2 unless I find something definitive telling me to do otherwise, which I doubt. I was considering adding HCG, but hadn't made up my mind. I plan to continue taking Aromasin throughout PCT and for 1 week after, so I will not be adding clomid.

For the point you made in the edit, I agree with your that there is obviously a risk of permanently messing up my endocrine system, but that is a risk all AAS users have to rationalize and deal with. One of the reasons the short cycle is appealing to me is the very short shutdown time, which should make recovery easier. The formatting in my first post was messed up, but I'm actually stopping the use of the prop and var by day 14, and starting PCT on day 15. I made an edit to help clarify the cycle.

any shut down is still shut down and you have to recover from it and in this case you will have marginal gains in the 2 weeks you are on and be shut down then restart and shut yourself right back down for 2 weeks where you will likely not have much growth even with short esters. plus not having clomid you will even be less likely to restart quickly anyway. i think especially for a first cycle why make it so complicated just run test p 500mg/wk for 8-10 weeks then have a good pct of course adex and hcg should still be used in every cycle along with nac. plus you will need blood work. i think the best option for you would be as stated above 8-10 weeks test prop.

also what is your age,height,weight, years training, bf%. and goals of the cycle?

 

[paulaner6947]

also what is your age,height,weight, years training, bf%. and goals of the cycle?

Thank you everyone for the advice so far.

age:24
height:6'0"
weight:210
years training: 5
bf%: ~12
Goals: only concerned with increasing strength and keeping my AAS use under the radar. Was originally considering a 12 week cyp cycle but I don't think I could get away with the quick weight gain from a long cycle.

I didn't think clomid and nolva were necessary, just one of the two? I've seen it both ways in PCT (clomid+nolva, and just one of them). I planned on running aromasin all the way through PCT and for 1 week following PCT, which is why I decided not to run clomid. If I did add it in, I would add it at 100/50/50 running the same time as my nolva.