Should I increase training days while "ON" cycle?

[Wurrukatte]

DoggCrapp training for instance is an A/B split set up as follows:

Week #1 -
Workout A = Monday
Workout B = Wednesday
Workout A = Friday

Week #2 -
Workout B = Monday
Workout A = Wednesday
Workout B = Friday
.

Would it be safe to train the split this way while running an AAS cycle:

Week #1 -
Workout A = Monday
Workout B = Tuesday
Workout A = Thursday
Workout B = Friday

Week #2 -
Workout A = Monday
Workout B = Tuesday
Workout A = Thursday
Workout B = Friday
.

AAS = the increase recovery and ability to handle an increase in workload:
So... If we do the EXACT SAME routine on an AAS cycle that we do off an AAS cycle -
don't you think that we're doing either too much off a cycle or not enough while on a cycle?
.

If you think that the recover ability of AAS is not sufficient enough that one would benefit from an increased weekly workload, I'd love to hear some logical reasoning behind it.

 

[Tone5500]

I think the idea is to be able to lift heavier and possibly more reps with the same amount of rest in between training days . Could be totally wrong Not in anyway a expert just chiming in

 

[MattyIce]

What is A/B consist of? No, as a rule of thumb you should maximize your training time with intensity and stay focused. Your body needs proper diet and rest in order to grow. A 4-day split and 2 resistance training days should suffice.

 

[JewJistu012]

Yeah everything I read pretty much says the same

 

[Wurrukatte]

What is A/B consist of? No, as a rule of thumb you should maximize your training time with intensity and stay focused. Your body needs proper diet and rest in order to grow. A 4-day split and 2 resistance training days should suffice.

Thanks for chiming in MattyIce -

Workout "A" would be:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
Back width
Back thickness

Workout "B" would be:
Biceps
Forearms
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads

DoggCrapp training is only one exercise and one brutal set per body part. So once I'm warmed up for the night, It's only a 30min workout, but very intense.

My Diet is pretty decent and I am VERY strict about following it and getting 9-10hrs of sleep a night.

Age = 36
Height = 5***8217;9***8221;
Weight = 190
Body fat = 15%

Current Diet:
protein 319grams daily
carbs 322grams daily
fats 82grams daily
calories 3,302grams daily

Meal 1 (6 AM) = 36/56/26/602
1 cup of OatMeal with water = 5/54/6/300
7 egg whites & 1 whole egg = 31/2/6/184
1tbsb Tablespoon of Flaxseed Oil = 0/0/14/120

Meal 2 (9 AM) = 45/59/10/506
1.5 scoops protein powder 40/5/4/216
1 cup of OatMeal with water = 5/54/6/300

Meal 3 (12 Noon) = 54/42/11/483
1 & 1/2 cup of sweet potato = 9/42/5/249
Choice (6oz of Chicken Breast, Steak or Fish) = 45/0/6/280

Meal 4 (3 PM) = 45/59/10/506
Same as Meal 2

Meal 5 (6 PM) = 54/42/11/483
Same as Meal 3

Meal 6 (9 PM) = 45/59/10/506
Same as Meal 2

MIDNIGHT SNACK = 40/5/4/216
1.5 scoops protein powder 40/5/4/216

"There's nothing scarier than a shaved bear."

 

[Wurrukatte]

I think the idea is to be able to lift heavier and possibly more reps with the same amount of rest in between training days . Could be totally wrong Not in anyway a expert just chiming in

Thanks for putting in your two cents Tone5500...
Appreciate it.

 

[JewJistu012]

If you're doing dc training you should know better. Dante recommends blasting and cruising...and said his 3 day split allows for better gains than the 4 day.

 

[Wurrukatte]

If you're doing dc training you should know better. Dante recommends blasting and cruising...and said his 3 day split allows for better gains than the 4 day.

True... he did say that. That's the same way natty trainers do DC training.
I am curious however... Was he talking on behalf of the natty trainer, or on behalf of the trainers with 3grams of gear in them when he said that?
On some level... There must be a difference.
.
Perhaps I am wrong in my theory though. Perhaps 3 days of rest isn't enough, even when flooded with gear.
I am not one of these people who ask a question a thousand times until he gets the answer he wants... I appreciate all the info you guys have given me.
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My question is... (unless he was talking to AAS users with the mentioned statement) of AAS aid in recovery, why not take advantage of it?
I'll gladly do 3days a week (as I do "off" cycle) when I figure out why 3 days after only one gruelling set isn't enough time while on heavy AAS.
I do not want to overtrain, but I do not want to undertrain either.

 

[MattyIce]

Not familiar with DC training, but the jist I getting I don't like ... 1 set per muscle group... heck, I have to do 3-4 warmup sets before I can begin to think about a heavy working set.

 

[JewJistu012]

True... he did say that. That's the same way natty trainers do DC training.
I am curious however... Was he talking on behalf of the natty trainer, or on behalf of the trainers with 3grams of gear in them when he said that?
On some level... There must be a difference.
.
Perhaps I am wrong in my theory though. Perhaps 3 days of rest isn't enough, even when flooded with gear.
I am not one of these people who ask a question a thousand times until he gets the answer he wants... I appreciate all the info you guys have given me.
.
My question is... (unless he was talking to AAS users with the mentioned statement) of AAS aid in recovery, why not take advantage of it?
I'll gladly do 3days a week (as I do "off" cycle) when I figure out why 3 days after only one gruelling set isn't enough time while on heavy AAS.
I do not want to overtrain, but I do not want to undertrain either.

No you should read cycle for pennies and go to his board for more info - his training was ADAPTED by natural lifters, and said it will work but ultimately it is for being ON. Hence the "blasting" and "cruising".

Seriously, you're using a shit ton of intensifiers here - rest pause, FAILURE every fucking set, AND statics (PLUS progressive overload/you have to beat last weeks lifts). You definitely need the time to recover bro.

Also, he's said it time and time again he's tired of guys fucking up his program thinking they know better Just sayin'

So to answer- - yes his 3 day is intended for people ON - even ON "heavy AAS"

Go over to intensemuscle and read all his stickies.

I'm natty and I can make it to about 5 weeks and my CNS is SHOT OUT. On gear I'm sure I could go a whole 12wks. But it's intense.

 

[JewJistu012]

Not familiar with DC training, but the jist I getting I don't like ... 1 set per muscle group... heck, I have to do 3-4 warmup sets before I can begin to think about a heavy working set.

You still have your warmups before you hit your work set.

 

[MattyIce]

You still have your warmups before you hit your work set.

K... OP if it is a system then be advised to follow the protocal. I dont subscribe to any method as such, I do what works for me.

 

[stevelifts]

Increase your workout intensity and your calories. Not workout frequency - intensity.

 

[Wurrukatte]

Not familiar with DC training, but the jist I getting I don't like ... 1 set per muscle group... heck, I have to do 3-4 warmup sets before I can begin to think about a heavy working set.

Yeah, there are warm up sets...
Dorian Yates is famous for his "Blood and Guts" routine he does, but it's only one working set per body-part as well.

No you should read cycle for pennies and go to his board for more info - his training was ADAPTED by natural lifters, and said it will work but ultimately it is for being ON. Hence the "blasting" and "cruising".

Seriously, you're using a shit ton of intensifiers here - rest pause, FAILURE every fucking set, AND statics (PLUS progressive overload/you have to beat last weeks lifts). You definitely need the time to recover bro.

Also, he's said it time and time again he's tired of guys fucking up his program thinking they know better Just sayin'

So to answer- - yes his 3 day is intended for people ON - even ON "heavy AAS"

Go over to intensemuscle and read all his stickies.

I'm natty and I can make it to about 5 weeks and my CNS is SHOT OUT. On gear I'm sure I could go a whole 12wks. But it's intense.

Thanks for the advise, I'll read "Pennies" and UP the intensity; and stick to 3days a week.

 

[MattyIce]

I cant for the the life of me imagine just shoulder press as my entire shoulder routine... or just incline bench for chest... or just pull downs for lats, etc. I believe you need to hit each muscle set with 3-5 exercises and possibly a super set or two. I'm used to my workouts taking 1 - 1.5 hours, 30 min workout would just piss me off.

 

[Wurrukatte]

I cant for the the life of me imagine just shoulder press as my entire shoulder routine... or just incline bench for chest... or just pull downs for lats, etc. I believe you need to hit each muscle set with 3-5 exercises and possibly a super set or two. I'm used to my workouts taking 1 - 1.5 hours, 30 min workout would just piss me off.

lol
I've always done HIGH volume and I just started this DC training. I'm skeptical... but I'm creating a VERY detailed log to see if it works for me or not.
It feels like it's not enough, yet I've never gotten so sore.
We'll see...

http://dc-training.blogspot.com/2005/11/cycles-for-pennies-continues.html

 

[JewJistu012]

lol
I've always done HIGH volume and I just started this DC training. I'm skeptical... but I'm creating a VERY detailed log to see if it works for me or not.
It feels like it's not enough, yet I've never gotten so sore.
We'll see...

All about Doggcrapp Training AKA DC Training: Cycles For Pennies Continues

Good stuff please post your log! Would love to see it man, hope it works for you!

 

[MattyIce]

For sure log that shit bro. Reading the DC site, you failed to mention different exercises for each muscle group 2x a week. This makes a lot more sense to me. good luck brother.