Someone please help!!!

[brandonp005]

Wow, this is horrible advice and should be deleted before someone else decides to try this.....

Even if this does work for you, you are very lucky.... Nothing over the counter can take place of Nolva or Clomid. There aren't even any bad sides from Nolva that I have experienced that make "feel bad" and make me want to go OTC, so what are you talking about? Worst sides I have got from 40-60mg of Nolva are 2 or 3 pimples. I will take that over any BS you can buy in a store. Plus, OTC junk is usually more expensive which is a huge waste.

I hope the majority of the forum members are smarter than this.

NOLVA, CLOMID, OR BOTH FOR PCT!

Yeah its horrible. That why I'm able to continue to grow from cycles, maintain my gains after cycles and live a healthy life. It works for me and thats what I'm stating. If you don't like it, then thats your opinion.

 

[Shaptown]

Nolva is NOT a good replacement for Clomid. Nolva has been shown to lower IGF-1 levels post-cycle, which is the absolute last thing you want when you are trying to maintain your gains.

My tried and tested standard is:

50mg Clomid
50mg Toremifene
50mg Proviron
12.5mg Aromasin

Obviously you dont "need" to use 2 SERMs like I do, but I find that I recover fast with them together than with either alone.

You will be feeling like a champ and fully recovered in no time!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I used clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) on both my previous cycles. I waited 30 days for my system to fully clear and then ran 100mg clomid ed for 30 days. It worked beautifully both times and no side effects. Clomid is expensive stuff but totally worth it. Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct).

thats very interesting, i dont know how many guys i see talking about their post cycle therapy (pct) and saying that they havent lost a pound, or their strenght went up...........then all the sudden after being on post cycle therapy (pct) for 3 weeks we dont hear from them for a month. this is because guys are starting their post cycle therapy (pct) early........yes early.

then what happens is the first 3 weeks of SERM was a total waste cause their T levels were so high all the clomid and nolva in the world wouldnt help. so really they get 1 weeks worth of SERM.

most peoples levels get to almost 6000ng/dl on cycle. who knows what they are with people who run over a gram.

if you use a 7 day half-life for enanthate it will take 4 weeks for T levels to get to an amount that will let your balls get signaled for production.

i see this online over and over again, failed post cycle therapy (pct)'s from simple test cycles..........bottomline they started SERM too early.


Ok i take that back, you can start that early if you want, cause your not harming anything just wasting your SERM, but if you start 2 weeks after last inject it would be wise to run your SERM for at least 6 weeks.

as for the HCGenerate i do believe it is an acceptible sub for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on simple test only cycles...........but on heavier cycles i think one should pull out all artillery, using everything they can get their hands on, including HCGenerate, forma, HCG, vit E, SERM, and something like N2KTS for pumps, cause i have 0 pumps in post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[waceyf]

^^^^^Great post Oak

 

[surfdog]

^X2 I was droping wieght after my cycle and during pct, a prework out did wonders for me mentaly, now I am stuffing my face again and hitting it hard trying to get it back! Also taking a otc test boaster to help along with the nolva

 

[Die$eL~Man]

sounds like you need some clomid