Sometimes this forum scares the S*** out of me

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JT19

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So some know my background some dont. Anyways long story short I took prohormones 1 year ago not knowing what they were and they effed me up. Been battling low t since. Currently I am waiting to go see an endo that my doc has refered me to. My issue is I feel like there is no hope :( I want to feel good again like I did before all of this shit. Idealy would like to be able to produce good numbers of test again on my own. In Canada though it seems to be really hard to get any kind of treatment and when you do get treatment it isn't done right. I also come on here and read so much bullshit about trt...a lot of you guys make it seem like it isn't much better than having low T. I am only 20 soon to be 21 and I can't handle feeling like an old man for the rest of my life. It is crushing me. Ruining my life. Killing my hopes and dreams and I just feel like even trt will never make me feel good like I did before. I am worried that I also will not receive any treatment or proper treatment anytime soon. I don't want to wait like 2 years before anything is even done about it. I need my life back now not later. It has gotten to the point where I am considering self medicating if no doctor will help me...I really don't want it to come to that. I do not trust ugl stuff. Sorry for my bitching I am just upset and need to get it off my chest
 
shoot me a PM on what is going on.
Do you even have labs done recently JT ?
I remember last time u had them tested TT was 17 nmol/l and change....
you never got back to us on FSH, LH, Prolactin....
what's this GP of yours doing ?
 
You're right about doc's in Canada. Even if u find an endo willing to treat it...chances are if they are still taking patients they don't know how to administer it.
They try to get you on the lowest dose. My TT came back 1268 ng/dl and the endo told me to cut my dose in half.....
told him to not interfere. There's plenty that don't even test thyroid, estradiol, liver enzymes e.t.c.
fucking disaster out there JT....
one endo said my TT when at 6 nmol/l was "not abnormally low" and that if he gave me anything it could cause cancer....
Just his way of getting rid of me out the door. But he said he was going to refer me to someone else.
So if they weren't low why is he referring me to another doc?
Total corruption!!!!
Socialized medicine doesn't work!!!!!
 
JT,

Don't know where you were referred to but don't go to this guy. I won't name names out in the open but here is a review on him I found online:

"This doctor is very unsympathetic and just tries to prescribe unnecessary drugs to patients. When challenged, he becomes hostile and says he will refer you to someone else if you do not agree with his methodology. Supposedly specializes in andrology (men's health), but doesn't treat the problems the way a modern endocrinologist should. Says he can't prescribe HRT, but is more than willing to prescribe ED drugs on the spot. Ridiculous."
 
I have not got any new bloods yet. The endo will order them for sure. I know this will end up being a waste of my time. They will say I am fine most likely even with T levels barly above the bottom of the range
 
I read the overview megatron. I already knew a lot of that stuff I have been researching hard for a long time. I just need a doctor that will help me. That is what it boils down to :( I do like reading the fact that I will feel like my young self again! as long as test levels are at a good point and E2 most importantly are correct. I must say I have noticed all the guys who complain about their trt now working usually are on to low of a dose. Or have to high of E2. I guess that explains the bad things that pop up from trt
 
JT19 said:
I read the overview megatron. I already knew a lot of that stuff I have been researching hard for a long time. I just need a doctor that will help me. That is what it boils down to :( I do like reading the fact that I will feel like my young self again! as long as test levels are at a good point and E2 most importantly are correct. I must say I have noticed all the guys who complain about their trt now working usually are on to low of a dose. Or have to high of E2. I guess that explains the bad things that pop up from trt
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It will make you feel alive again. But you need to be you own advocate for getting on a good protocol. Sounds like you are well on your way to doing that.
 
Without new labs since last Sept. how do you know that your problem is T related ?
forgive me, but how do you know your thyroid hormones are not out of whack cause of all the emotional stress you are going through.
You are stressed JT...this has been on your mind since last June 2013 when we first spoke.
You could be getting depression from this.
Without labs to see where u are...u don't know for sure.
And you never tested your pituitary hormones as well.....
all your doctor did was do a couple blood tests for TT last summer.
If I were you, I'd be hoping on some wellbutrin in the mean time for that extra kick....
It's doesn't cause weight gain like the other anti d's....
you might notice some increase in libido from it too....
 
I am not that depressed. Im just sick and tired of it thats the issue and the reason I think it is T related is because this whole time it has been t related and I have all the symptoms so why all of a sudden would it be something else that is affecting me than it. My t levels are not back to normal at all and it is very very very obvious. I was checked for thyroid a a couple years ago and was fine. I never had a problem until I took prohormones. Anyways I will get more bloods done when I see a new doctor. I am not taking an Anti D. I do not need it. I am just frustrated with feeling shitty and not being able to have a normal college life. I'm still happy though for other shit in my life. Man I always feel like you make me have to explain myself all the time dude it gets annoying.
 
What's getting annoying is you.
"Couple years ago" is a "couple years ago". You never had stress then. Stress messes with Thyroid.
Sorry to break it to you....
but it appears to me you are not aggressive enough to take charge of your life.
If I were you, I would have had 2 labs done now from Sept. 2013 with thyroid and the works.
You have absolutely no basis (or baseline) to prove your case to any specialist or endo in regards to your T not being "back to normal". All you have is labs from September that show 490 + ng/dl TT (If I remember right) no pituitary hormones...
And that is not even enough to get a script for clomid from an endo let alone further therapy.
That friend of yours messed u up and he deserves most of the blame here.
 
ya he did. And man my doctor doesn't want to do any more stuff that is why she is sending me somewhere else. They will do bloods. Im doing my best. I can only go as fast as my doctor goes.
 
bad news....I hear ya. Just trying to save you some time. Cause when you go there in May, he'll give you labs to be done and tell you to come back in 1-3 months. I'm thinking they won't even get things started till at least next Sept. 2014...
 
Bro I can't say much about how Canada does it..but I can say that I'm only 20 and have been through every single feeling that you are feeling.. man I seriously can say that it gets better. It is hard a fuck to go through a hormonal crash but you will be better physically and mentally.. it will take time but it does.

And bro it could be way fucking worse..cancer, diabetes,paralyzed and a whole other worse things in life. Just never give up.

And don't think it makes you a old man. I won two mma fights with low T levels.. I honestly didn't even know it affected me until I antually found out I had low T. That's when I went into that state of mind that you are feeling.. stay strong bro
 
Thanks buddy! Ya I am thankful for the health that I still have and the life I still have. I don't like the health conditions low t can bring on though. and Living with it sucks lol but like you said. It could be much worse
 
JT19 said:
Thanks buddy! Ya I am thankful for the health that I still have and the life I still have. I don't like the health conditions low t can bring on though. and Living with it sucks lol but like you said. It could be much worse
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Goodluck . And talking to someone close helps alot or even a doctor. Its hard trying to figure the shit out by yourself bro but you will eventually
 
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