These two compounds aren't actually Winstrol (winny) with an ester, they're more like pro-hormones that are precursors to Winstrol (winny). I have no idea how to convert them though, sorry.
If they are prohormones but with "fake/made up names", then good luck getting them into solution. You can test out 1g of either one and see if it will stay in solution. If it doesnt, then you can throw it out.
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