Starting my first cycle of Testosterone Cypionate.

[leapfrog]

Hi guys. I am currently on TRT and I Have 2 extra bottles of Testosterone Cypionate. They are Watson brand and a total of 2,000 mg/10 ml each. That gives me a total of 4,000 mg that I plan to split for a 2 month period of 500 mg per week. I have been on TRT for about 6 months now and taking the regular dose. I have a few questions before I begin. I have Axiron underarm gel to help cycle off. I currently do bodybuilding 3 days a week for an hour a day and walk/jog 2 miles a day for 7 days a week. My stats are 32 years old 6'1 230 pounds. I am also currently taking 1 creatine mix drink and 1 protein shake per day.

1. Is that dose of 500 per week for 2 months enough to see anabolic results?

2. Can I use Axiron for the following months to cycle off, if so, how long? (trt replacement theropy still in effect as well)

3. Is my current workout routine intensive enough for this process or should I intensify it?

4. Do I discontinue taking creatine or protein shakes or increase during this process?

5. Do I continue or discontinue walking?

6. Any other recommendations or sudjestions?

Sorry to hit you guys with so many questions but I don't know anyone in my life that would give me any positive answers. I just want to make sure im doing it right before I start. I have been reading a lot about this and have a good idea of how it works. Thank you guys so much for your time. Your help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Megatron28]

8 weeks is pretty short cycle. Most guys will go 10-12 weeks. It would be good to have another vial on hand.

What is your current TRT protocol? Are you dialed in? What are your lab results on TRT? What are you doing to manage your estradiol?

500mg of test cyp per week is a good dose for your first cycle.

What do you mean by cycle off with Axiron? Normally you would just stop your cycle and return to your TRT dose. You don't have to worry about PCT as you are already hypogonadal.

Walking is good for you. Keep doing it. But focus on weight lifting to add muscle during your cycle. And you will have to up your caloric intake on cycle. You want to make sure you give your diet a lot of attention.

 

[Matt0071]

I dont understand yoiur diet at all, a protein shake and creatine?
To gain any kind of muscle you need to work on your diet bro amd then go from there
U cam run 500mg a week split into 2 doses mon/thurs for 10 weeks then just drop bsck down to your trt dose again
Usually what I do is a 10 to 12 week blast then back down to 200mg/week

 

[leapfrog]

Currently I am taking 200mg every 2 weeks for my TRT. My level was very low the second time I checked. I believe it was around 200 and the first time it was a bit higher but still in the "low" zone.

Im sorry but I am not sure what "estradiol" is.

I figured pct would not be an issue since I am on TRT but I do have the Axiron so I thought I would mention it in case it helped.

So 8 weeks is not enough? I may be able to go to 9 or 10 depending on how much I can get out of the vials.

 

[leapfrog]

Sorry I did not mention my entire diet to the full extent. I do have a great diet consisting of mostly protein and vegetables. I usually take my protein shake 7am in the morning with milk and my creatine in the afternoon at 2pm with water. Is 10 weeks the minimum?

 

[Megatron28]

I would get your TRT protocol dialed in before you consider running a cycle. Pinning once every two weeks is not a good way to be on TRT. It puts your levels on a roller coaster. Inject at least once a week. Just split your 200mg into 100mg per week. Even. Better still would be 50mg every 3.5 days. This keeps your TT levels more stable.

Estradiol is a form of estrogen. Testosterone aromatizes into estradiol (converts). When your TT levels spike you are more prone to aromatize. You really need to check your estradiol. Are you working with a doctor? Aromatization can be reduced by injecting smaller, more frequent doses as I suggested above. But if that is not enough and you still have high estradiol you will need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI).

If you start taking 500mg of test per week, you are going to have a big estradiol problem. If you don't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you are going to get gynecomastia. That means you develop mammories.

I would encourage you to find the TRT section in this forum and start reading about TRT. There is a lot you need to learn.

Please don't run a cycle until you get your TRT figured out.

 

[leapfrog]

I would get your TRT protocol dialed in before you consider running a cycle. Pinning once every two weeks is not a good way to be on TRT. It puts your levels on a roller coaster. Inject at least once a week. Just split your 200mg into 100mg per week. Even. Better still would be 50mg every 3.5 days. This keeps your TT levels more stable.

Estradiol is a form of estrogen. Testosterone aromatizes into estradiol (converts). When your TT levels spike you are more prone to aromatize. You really need to check your estradiol. Are you working with a doctor? Aromatization can be reduced by injecting smaller, more frequent doses as I suggested above. But if that is not enough and you still have high estradiol you will need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI).

If you start taking 500mg of test per week, you are going to have a big estradiol problem. If you don't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you are going to get gynecomastia. That means you develop mammories.

I would encourage you to find the TRT section in this forum and start reading about TRT. There is a lot you need to learn.

Please don't run a cycle until you get your TRT figured out.

I see. I was just doing it the way it was prescribed. But you are certainly right about the roller coaster effect. Im constantly up and down between injections. Ill start reading more about Estradiol and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and what I need before starting anything. High estrogen is not something I would like to experience. Splitting injections throughout the week is something I can do for now. I am working with my doctor but my next appointment is not set until December. I will definitely read more before I run a cycle as you advised. Maybe after the New Years. Thank you for taking your time out to respond. You were very helpful.

 

[Megatron28]

If you want to run labs yourself without going through your doc, use Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online. Many guys here get the Hormone Panel for Females (for men too). It costs about $50 and you get the results in 24-48 hours. This panel tells you most of what you need to know, including TT and Estradiol. Get checked.

On a different note, are you donating blood regularly? Exogenous test raises your hematocrit. You need to donate blood to lower it.

Sounds like you may need a new doctor. :-(

 

[leapfrog]

If you want to run labs yourself without going through your doc, use Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online. Many guys here get the Hormone Panel for Females (for men too). It costs about $50 and you get the results in 24-48 hours. This panel tells you most of what you need to know, including TT and Estradiol. Get checked.

On a different note, are you donating blood regularly? Exogenous test raises your hematocrit. You need to donate blood to lower it.

Sounds like you may need a new doctor. :-(

Thanks for the link. I wish I knew of that before. I will get checked out. I would of never known to use the panel for females.
What exactly do you mean by "donating blood". Is that as in give blood or get my sample checked?
Unfortunately I would have to agree with you as far as finding a new Doctor.

 

[Megatron28]

As in go to the red cross and give them a pint.

Do you know your hematocrit numbers?

Is your doctor talking to you about any of this stuff or is he just giving you a bottle of test?

 

[leapfrog]

As in go to the red cross and give them a pint.

Do you know your hematocrit numbers?

Is your doctor talking to you about any of this stuff or is he just giving you a bottle of test?

I don't know my hematocrit numbers. Actually before you mentioned it before, I have never heard of it.

It seems like he is just giving me the test and telling me to follow the directions. I guess for what they are for thats ok.

Their is always blood trucks with people hounding me whenever I go to the library near by my home. I guess I can take advantage of them.

 

[leapfrog]

I have been reading a lot about Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I found a product in the pill format called DIM. Is that something that would work as an AI?

 

[CanAmBrah]

You say you have a dr's appt in December?
If he's doing bloods, then it'll show you're on a blast and it'll screw you for your trt.

Other than that, it sounds like you are self injecting for your trt, so try 100mg a week. Even better, 50mg twice a week. But with cyp you're probably good once a week it'll be sooo much better than every two weeks.

After saying all that, you are asking alot of steroid 101 questions... You really need to do a lot more reading here before you jump into a blast for the first time.
Read the stickies.

 

[leapfrog]

You say you have a dr's appt in December?
If he's doing bloods, then it'll show you're on a blast and it'll screw you for your trt.

Other than that, it sounds like you are self injecting for your trt, so try 100mg a week. Even better, 50mg twice a week. But with cyp you're probably good once a week it'll be sooo much better than every two weeks.

After saying all that, you are asking alot of steroid 101 questions... You really need to do a lot more reading here before you jump into a blast for the first time.
Read the stickies.

Actually I was planning on starting this just after my appointment. Its on December 4th which is a week and a half from now. But you are right, there is a few more things I need to learn so I already planned an not doing it till after the New Years. I will put a few more months of planning in before I start. besides, when I really thought about it, just before Christmas was never a good idea. A lot of the questions I asked I have already read before. The questions are just more of a confirmation thing before I start.