Stop eating after 7pm
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zephyr_987
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i think eating carbs after 7 will mess up your fat burning efforts. but there are exceptions... like if you train at night, you could have simple carbs in your post workout meal. as for people who work night shifts, i think you would just have to time it in a way where u wont eat carbs 4 hrs prior to bed. in my situation i go to bed @ 11. i dont eat carbs after 6. but i have 2 more meals prior to bedtime. they consist something like this: 6-8 oz chicken breast, a large bowl of salad w/ itallian dressing & i drink a cup of kefir before both meals
mispronounced
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The biggest thing that matters is calories in and calories out. Meal timing does not make much of a difference, your body doesn't say "oh shit, its time to sleep, better stop everything and produce fat." As long as you're hitting your calorie goal, it doesn't make much of a difference. I could most likely find some medical journals for you about this if you want to read them
It really does not make a difference, calories in, calories out, hit your macros and decently spaced out meals (hell you don't need 6 meals a day, as long as you hit everything).
In fact, in the following study people lost weight eating carbs for dinner Greater weight loss and hormonal cha... [Obesity (Silver Spring). 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
But in many studies, it has shown little to no change.
In fact, in the following study people lost weight eating carbs for dinner Greater weight loss and hormonal cha... [Obesity (Silver Spring). 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
But in many studies, it has shown little to no change.
KobesBryant
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I don't necessarily agree about the calories in and calories out. If all of our body tissue was the same then maybe that simple thinking would work, but their are way too many variables to simply call it calories in and calories out. For instance, if I eat a clean diet and lose fat and gain muscle, does that mean that someone else who eats the exact same amount of calories should get the same results? Of course not. Eatting equal calories but higher protein will of course net better results. I feel strongly that I'd rather get my calories from protein and carbs then fat. I eat a very high protein and high carb diet and I am at 6.8% body fat. I eat like a horse, but I don't eat very much fat. I feel that our bodies metabolize the sugar in our blood a lot easier than fat you put into your body. For example, if you eat a lot of fat before you go to the gym, will it increase your work (force*distance) in the gym as much as if you ate a lot of carbs before you go to the gym? In other words, eatting an equal amount of calories of carbs or fat will not have the same result. The carbs will give you energy to lift more, which translates to more calories burnt. The same thing happens on to a smaller extent throughout the day also. Also I don't know for sure, but I am going to guess that eatting different things, or at different times must have an effect on your metabolism.
Now as for how that applies to eating before bed? If you stop eating hours before you go to bed, it will probably result in a lower amount of overall calories taken in realistically since you will probably find yourself skipping a snack or small meal that you would've otherwise had.
Personally, I eat right before I go to sleep to try and decrease the amount of time I go without protein. If you eat 3 hours before you go to bed, then by the time you sleep your body is probably mostly done processing the protein you ate 3 hours before. That means your going to go 8 hours without protein. All of our bodies metabolic processes require protein, so your body must get that from somewhere... if you have no amino acids flowing in your blood coming from food, then your body will be breaking down muscle to get the appropriate amino acids it needs for its processes. Protein can not be synthesized from fat or carbs or anything besides amino acids gained from eatting protein or breaking down muscle etc. If you eat cottage cheese, milk, meat, or some other slow digesting source of protein before bed, you will maximize your gains. This will of course be contradictory to your goals if you are strictly trying to cut though.
Now as for how that applies to eating before bed? If you stop eating hours before you go to bed, it will probably result in a lower amount of overall calories taken in realistically since you will probably find yourself skipping a snack or small meal that you would've otherwise had.
Personally, I eat right before I go to sleep to try and decrease the amount of time I go without protein. If you eat 3 hours before you go to bed, then by the time you sleep your body is probably mostly done processing the protein you ate 3 hours before. That means your going to go 8 hours without protein. All of our bodies metabolic processes require protein, so your body must get that from somewhere... if you have no amino acids flowing in your blood coming from food, then your body will be breaking down muscle to get the appropriate amino acids it needs for its processes. Protein can not be synthesized from fat or carbs or anything besides amino acids gained from eatting protein or breaking down muscle etc. If you eat cottage cheese, milk, meat, or some other slow digesting source of protein before bed, you will maximize your gains. This will of course be contradictory to your goals if you are strictly trying to cut though.
I agree with that, but I think a lot of times when people say calories in and calories out on diet forms and nutrition forms, it usually assumed that you have a set percentage of macros you are hitting (so I guess IIFYM is a better saying than calories in and calories out). But, for questions about eating at different times, eating or not eating at night, how many meals should I have, I feel calories in, calories out and IIFYM is a fine wait to plan your diet (while also using a bit of common sense).
dy595959
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Absolutely NOT true!! The fastest way to lose BF is to limit your Carbs after 2pm ish (I stop or limit after lunch), and eat Good Fat before bed (last 2 meals) I lost 5% BF in 3 weeks due to this!!
Good Luck
mispronounced
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glad this is working for you, but its just placebo effect.
Influence to timing of sucrose ... [J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo). 1982] - PubMed - NCBI
summary- rats given a sugary meal at either morning or night showed no difference in body composition.
here's one about meal timing in humans, not as specifically about carbohydrates though.
Meal timing and composition influence ghrelin level... [Steroids. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI
letsgetyolked
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Truth. Don't just completely stop eating after 7. Just eat right.
mispronounced
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haha hey man, i'm glad its working for you, we all have different bodies that respond better to different things. I just wanted to point out to the OP that it really doesn't make a difference, so I included some studies, no hard feelings
juced_porkchop
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thats not really true. eatign high carb or cal meals are not the best in the later end of day. I would keep it to more protein and fats (some nuts for eg.
A calorie is not just a calorie sorry.
if you eat 80% carbs or 80% protein.... trust me it matters, even if the cals are the same.
juced_porkchop
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SAME HERE!
Not pigging out, but ill tell you i eat right up untill bedtime. but I eat VERY light 2hrs before bed (so I am not full of food when I lay down) and have a protein drink right before.
juced_porkchop
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I dont agree, I do say higher carbs earlier in the day and less at night is better for fat loss and also along with general carb cycling for a limited time while trying to lose fat.
but no way would i say eat no carbs after 2pm... to me thats just crazy
Carbs also boost your metabolism.
yes they lean towards storing fat at the same time when eating high carbs and/or cals, but I would not cut carbs out untill 1-2hrs before bed ( i would rec a protein drink + 1oz oliv oil or a handfull of nuts at thet time not a peace of bread or some pasta so cals is not cals either) the main thing is what you are eating more then only their "class"
just my op
mispronounced
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you're correct, I was assuming a good ratio would be followed, I agree completely it matters. I should have mentioned this is only given a good ratio, thanks for pointing that out
juced_porkchop
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NP/agreed
Just making sure because I have had the argument before with people about it mattering to a degree.
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