T3: How long? / Clen and EC: Cycling on and off

[drigomeister]

Hi all!

I read the stickies but I'm a little confused. I have 3 questions:

1) On T3:

I understand that there is no evidence that T3 will permanently shut down one's thyroid glands. So some suggests that there is no need to taper off from its use.

I am coming off this position.

I have read old articles recommending cycle durations ranging from 3-6 weeks with half of said period allocated for tapering off T3. Now, since there is no need to to taper off, what will be a good cycle duration for T3? 4 weeks? Or does it basically mean that I can run it for as long as I like?

2) On clen and EC (Ephedrine and Caffeine):

I have both clen and EC.

I have read old articles that clen should be used 2 weeks on/2 weeks off since it loses its effectiveness after 2 weeks.

As such, I thought I'd just run the EC for 2 weeks while off clen. But I read posts that it's not advisable as they target the same betareceptors.

Can someone confirm this?

I want to be on either clen or EC for the duration of the T3. So should I just stay on clen for the duration of the T3 and just take antihistamine like benadryl for a week if ever I decide to use clen for more than 2 weeks, and just put the EC on the shelf for later use?

3) Post T3:

Is it true that immediately after stopping intake of T3, neither clen or EC should be used so as to promote bounce back of thyroid gland performance? If yes, for how long should I refrain from using either clen or EC before I can use them again?

Thanks in advance.

 

[workoutfreak078]

Hi all!

I read the stickies but I'm a little confused. I have 3 questions:

1) On T3:

I understand that there is no evidence that T3 will permanently shut down one's thyroid glands. So some suggests that there is no need to taper off from its use.

I am coming off this position.

I have read old articles recommending cycle durations ranging from 3-6 weeks with half of said period allocated for tapering off T3. Now, since there is no need to to taper off, what will be a good cycle duration for T3? 4 weeks? Or does it basically mean that I can run it for as long as I like?

2) On clen and EC (Ephedrine and Caffeine):

I have both clen and EC.

I have read old articles that clen should be used 2 weeks on/2 weeks off since it loses its effectiveness after 2 weeks.

As such, I thought I'd just run the EC for 2 weeks while off clen. But I read posts that it's not advisable as they target the same betareceptors.

Can someone confirm this?

I want to be on either clen or EC for the duration of the T3. So should I just stay on clen for the duration of the T3 and just take antihistamine like benadryl for a week if ever I decide to use clen for more than 2 weeks, and just put the EC on the shelf for later use?

3) Post T3:

Is it true that immediately after stopping intake of T3, neither clen or EC should be used so as to promote bounce back of thyroid gland performance? If yes, for how long should I refrain from using either clen or EC before I can use them again?

Thanks in advance.

1.) Run T3 for a maximum of 4 - 6 weeks. Some articles say that you do not need to taper off, but I still do.

2.) Some people say that you can use an EC stack on your off weeks of Clen. I suggest not to though, since they target the same beta receptors and you won't get much benefit out of it. Run an over the counter fat burner, such as Thermorexin or Lipo-6 on your off weeks.

3.) If you want to run one of the two with T3, I suggest running Clen. Clen and T3 work together in ways I don't even understand that maximize the fat burning effect. Stacking Clen/T3 is the best fat burner you can possibly use other than DNP. Save the EC stack for later.

4.) You can use Clen immediately after you are done with the T3. It won't effect your thyroid at all. It is actually better to do this seeing as how it takes your thyroid two weeks to get back to its normal state, so running Clen for two weeks will keep the fat burning.

 

[dialtone]

you can run t3 as long as you want and you dont need to taper down, its nothing like clen they are just used together.

 

[drigomeister]

Thanks bros for the replies!

I think I'll take the clen for the duration of the T3 cycle. I'll just get some ketotifen. Is 2mg per day every third week enough? Suggested dosages vary from 1-6mg of ketotifen.

 

[dialtone]

just use 1 mg keto, benadryl is a lot cheaper though

 

[drigomeister]

I know.

That's why as much as possible, I don't want to take 6mg of ketotifen if it's not necessary.

Thanks for that bro!